CAVE CV1000 Bootlegs

[Jan]

Those that buy these will always be the ones that cant afford the original anyway. Its been historically proven.

[geotrig]

Yeah, so far every time an alternative's developed that we think might devalue original hardware it does the opposite. Ends up a stepping stone that drives interest in originals if anything.

Yeah pretty much this, it has pretty much put a few games that I put on the long finger for picking up out of reach or what I'm willing to pay, but that's just me, none of this has damaged the value of any of them though

[geotrig]

Those that buy these will always be the ones that cant afford the original anyway. Its been historically proven.

Maybe wrong wording there , some people who probably can't really afford have bought these originals anyway and still will , doesn't really say anything , some just put limits on what they'll pay for an item even boots . Who buys these doesn't really say anything

Just realized it is April.

Wait the most important thing I've learn from this thread is Jan been doing April's fools wrong all this time

[Jan]

All prices are overblown, be it sneakers, games or cars. I‘m in the market to pick up a certain car for bout a year now (for driving not collecting) and with the interest rising prices are dropping fast. Hopefully we will see something like that in all the overblown markets, I’m not talking bargains , but reasonable prices.

[Jan]

Wait the most important thing I've learn from this thread is Jan been doing April's fools wrong all this time

[markedkiller78]

I’m hoping they’ve made thousands of these and that they’re actually 1:1. It’s easy to tell they’re repro so I don’t see any negatives.

I can’t see me buying any unless they become curiosity price levels, but the market determines the price and from my perspective, the lower the better.

[sven666]

If you cant afford 1500-3000k or whatever for an original youre not gonna spend 1000-1500 on a boot. The sales at that price are just scamming unknowing customers thinking theyre buying originals.
I cant see much of a market for these unless they start hitting 200-300 or maybe a bit more for a multi, not sure the margins are there for that but i guess in the coming weeks well see how low they can go.

Its not gonna impact the price of originals, if anything itll create a bigger demand for them and drive prices further.
The only way originals come down in value is if more are being made, and not even then is it certain, look at the value of mushi futari bl og vs another version.
Or outside cave theres the official rerelease of nes games like gimmick and holy diver for instance..

[Jan]

Oh I can see someone paying 1000€ for a sdoj rather than paying like 4000€ ( don‘t know the market „value“ atm), or 500-800€ for a Akai rather than 3000€, if it is 1:1.

If you are in for gaming ( not collecting or investing) and pcb only, who cares, you won’t see the pcb in your cab anyway. Hello PGM Conversions. Speaking of these, how did these impact the price of the originals again? Can‘t remember

[sven666]

The pgm carts didnt lower the value of the originals, they did stop skyrocketing i suppose. A ketsui pcb is still around €1000 i think? Last espgaluda kit at arcadeshock was $2500...

It did however skyrocket the cost of pgm mobos and also increased the value of the other games on the system... they used to be dirt cheap.

If you just want to play the game as cheap as possible there are waaaay cheaper options than a €1000 bootleg.

[Jan]

Again, don‘t know the prices, but I remember a bare Ketsui pcb being offered at 1.8? Or a bare Espgaluda PCB for 1.2k?

Doubt there is a market for bare pcbs at these prices after the conversions.

Anyway, the premise is ofcourse a 1:1 jamma based solution. Neither a console port nor some sort of imperfect emulation.

[Monstermug]

Its not april fools. Its been on ebay for a long time. Well after i was discussing with my friends about the possibilty of cave conversions and cave multi if they dont exist already. Its technically possible and the next step for evolution.

Nothing will effect the original hardware though. Those that buy these will always be the ones that cant afford the original anyway. Its been historically proven.

I had edited this original posting and mixed up the sentance.. it should have read...:

"Nothing will effect the price of the original hardware though. Its been historically proven.

Those that buy these will always be the ones that cant afford the original anyway. "

Not that it changes anything ?

[Jan]

Would still be false and still be a very arrogant assumption.

[Monstermug]

Would still be false and still be a very arrogant assumption.

If u could afford an original why would you settle for a boot?

The only time i purposely bought a bootleg was the time i thought i would never be able to find an original Mutant night.. then i found one

[Jan]

This might be some sort of shock, but there might be people consider spending 3000€ or even more for a game irrational (nicely speaking)?
Not because they can‘t afford it, but because it is a freaking game ?

[Monstermug]

Huh? So you would buy a boot as well as the original is what your saying? Is this a new fetish? Ive not had much sleep so i might be mistaken your posts.

[Monstermug]

Talking about bootlegs.. is this an original box or fake.. its available for 35 quid.

[Jan]

I‘m saying, I’d pick up a 1:1 con at a reasonable price any day over an original 3000€ pcb. Personally , I (not a collector) can not justify dropping these amounts for a game for a game that I play 5 times a year.

Further, I’d rather have a 500€ conversion die on me than a 3000€ original.

[Monstermug]

Thank you for clarifying. We are quite similar then. I can afford a farrari but instead i bought mx5 because it almost does the same thing if u have good imgination.

[markedkiller78]

Everyone has a different definition of worth. Some people have a huge amount of disposable income and simply don’t think a video game is worth $xxxx. They could easily afford it, but aren’t interested in buying at the current market rate.

[Jan]

Thank you for clarifying. We are quite similar then. I can afford a farrari but instead i bought mx5 because it almost does the same thing if u have good imgination.

If that mx5 offers the same handling, sound and performance as the Ferrari, I would probably do that, yes, because that is why a driver buys a Ferrari, not for the image and prestige.