The dispute resolution thread

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Re: The dispute resolution thread

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Post them here but this is sounding pretty conclusive.
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Psykick wrote:ps. I do have proof that those are my boards, think about that :think: :wave:
Damn i don't hope those are the ones i declined as i was/am too busy with life stuff? (Just sold my house, equipment is boxed up for the next 3 months.)
Edit: Figured out what they were. Np.
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Re: The dispute resolution thread

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neocps1 wrote:Several times gamescollector sent me gameboards which didn't match the initial game pictures and descriptions.
As I have knowledge to repair them, I accepted a partial refund. But never ever made it public.

Maybe I should have. gamescollector is dishonest and often sell items that do not match what you receive.

Also, I have been stolen by kaneda56 which I paid for games which I never received. I knew I have not
much to do to get my money back, so I did nothing.

Also many people insulting me on neo-arcadia are known to have problems with buyers.

But nothing about that.

Just unfair.

I am a good buyer, Superpang knows that (gnet lot). I have money, and never needed to stole gameboards

whereas I could buy them myself.

Yes packages are always been shipped tracked. But somtimes, you make **** and forget / lost about the tracking.

gamescollector is only a liar complaining to expect to have both the games and the money of the games.

That's all I have to say.
But do you still talk about it? they are all lies, the agreement was clear and the photos are those posted.
has cheated dozens of people especially in France, on the forum of neo arcadia the post is full.
Do you have the pcbs and do not send them, and we all keep talking about it?
superpang how is it possible that it can still be active on the forum?
HE DOES NOT HAVE MY DATA TO SEND, BUT WHAT DO WE SPEAK?


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Re: The dispute resolution thread

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gamescollector wrote:superpang how is it possible that it can still be active on the forum?
Superpang is tucked up in bed, but remember he gave neocps1 a marketplace ban on the same day you first posted your issue.

After that it’s standard procedure to allow some time for dispute. It’s fair, it’s the purpose of this thread, it keeps hope of resolution open, and you are not the only member with something to lose.
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Re: The dispute resolution thread

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pubjoe wrote:
gamescollector wrote:superpang how is it possible that it can still be active on the forum?
Superpang is tucked up in bed, but remember he gave neocps1 a marketplace ban on the same day you first posted your issue.

After that it’s standard procedure to allow some time for dispute. It’s fair, it’s the purpose of this thread, it keeps hope of resolution open, and you are not the only member with something to lose.
I think it's also better to keep him active, but not on marketplace.
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Re: The dispute resolution thread

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I keep asking myself how long has it been since the games have been shipped? According to the email-screenshots it seems not long ago, so maybe they have been shipped but just not have arrived yet, hence it's two different countrys. The known fact that there's no tracking ID of course sets gamecollector in the position to just say they haven't arrived, which of course is the mistake of neocps1 but in my opinion no real prove of scamming. At least in this case, other people seem to had or have similar problems with him. It's more than careless of neocps1 to not write down the tracking ID of these pretty sought after games and the punishment should be a reasonable refund (not forgetting that the games were faulty and possibly beyond repair).
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Re: The dispute resolution thread

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Yeah, I was wondering where the evidence from gamescollector was. I see the evidence of two months passing then neocps1 saying he return shipped, then days after gamescollector posted here.

But the key point from gamescollector is that neocps1 should not have gamescollector’s address. Neocps1 hasn’t explained this.
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I can't speak for other countries but if one is shipping stuff from Germany it's normal to write down the own address on the box. At the post office you'll be asked if the package should be sent back to your place if the package can't be delivered. It would be a very strange thing to not write down your own address on the box.
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Wurstkopp wrote:I can't speak for other countries but if one is shipping stuff from Germany it's normal to write down the own address on the box. At the post office you'll be asked if the package should be sent back to your place if the package can't be delivered. It would be a very strange thing to not write down your own address on the box.
I agree and it’s the same here too. Gamescollector seems certain he didn’t though. Shrug.
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Wurstkopp wrote:The known fact that there's no tracking ID of course sets gamecollector in the position to just say they haven't arrived, which of course is the mistake of neocps1 but in my opinion no real prove of scamming.
And further to this you *could* say that gamescollector’s cornered himself such that if the games were to turn up he wouldn’t want to admit it now.

But let’s wait and see.
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Re: The dispute resolution thread

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Maybe it's a great opportunity for a true gentleman and cool dude to admit if the games should arrive and it would make the world a little better for everyone. :)
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Re: The dispute resolution thread

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I agree there too. :awe:
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Re: The dispute resolution thread

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Ok, let's put an end to this charade. I didn't want to do this and lack the time, but I woke up two hours earlier today to put everything in place and show everybody how stuff went with my deals with David!

He says one thing and does the other, says he can fix everything for sure and then all of a sudden he can't. He says he has shipped things, but then proposes a deal to still compensate me for my defective boards. He's drowning in his own lies and made matters worse. I wanted for him to come clean and admit his msitakes and maybe people would have forgiven him over time, but he is stubborn and just wants to burn everything behind him I guess. I know I lost those boards and my money, but he has lost much more in my opinion.

You be the judge of the whole thing and tell me if I'm wrong or could have handled it differently.

This here is where it al started, he said to me in a thread that he could fix my DDP, read every image from bottom to top of course;





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Then I ask for my board back and also start the conversation about the other two boards;





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Then at the bottom of the following conversation he asks me one time for the Devasatators PCB. I was still searching for a game and finally found one in my own collection hehe. I packed it up, but just didn't have the time to go to the post office, in fact it's still here in it's box with his name on it. Glad I didn't send it. This is also where I find out that he is tyrying to sell my boards on Neo Arcadia. I will get back to that after this one.





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Now you can see that I have found out that he was selling my boards. The reason I accuse him and know these are mine is because he is opening a thread with these boards for sale, but doesn't include a picture of the boards or screens of the game, but when a good friend of mine, Netaxe, asks him for pictures of the boards we know for sure that the boards he is selling are mine. Netaxe was the one that attempted t o repair the boards and did some replacements, but couldn't go any further because of the custom chips. He knew for 100% sure that these are mine, because he could see his own work that was done on them.


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This is the point for me when I knew for sure and I urged him to send my boards back and do what is right. He is drowning further and further in his own lies and simply doesn't know what he has said to who.




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He is telling me that the package was sent out yesterday on 01-07-2018 on Neo Arcadia






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That is where our conversation ended on Neo Arcadia, because he got banned, but then he propose a deal on the 4th of july on at the top of the following image. How can he propose this if he sent out my boards?




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Then I ask him again to solve this properly and ask him to just do the right thing and in the future he could regain trust again, but his last answer just says it all!





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This guy doesn't want to make things right, but wants to hold on to his lies and should be banned. We've seen people like him before and I hope this will be the last, because we shouldn't let people like this ruin this good community!
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Re: The dispute resolution thread

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Oh boy, what a mess. I hope nepcps1 is doing the only right thing now and ship the games to you asap (with tracking ID of course). :(
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Re: The dispute resolution thread

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Wurstkopp wrote:Maybe it's a great opportunity for a true gentleman and cool dude to admit if the games should arrive and it would make the world a little better for everyone. :)
No kidding. I'm always surprised how dishonest people can be. You know who you are.
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Re: The dispute resolution thread

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Well there's the smoking gun.

neocps1, return everybody's boards, tracked and insured or pay them the equivalent market value or you will be banned from the forum for life with your full details posted in the scammers thread. Bear in mind these could be found by anyone who googles your name, such as a future employer.

Psykick would also be well within his rights to contact the police.
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Re: The dispute resolution thread

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Holy ****.

I'm going to be a bit more careful going forward buying stuff on this forum. This thread has been way too active the past few months to ignore. Good luck to Psykick and the others with their disputes!
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Damn man, hope you get your boards back Psykick. You deserve a medal for continuously trying to resolve this in private with a guy that obviously tries to run off with your boards.
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Hassan i`m really sorry for that mess, i nearly threw up up from anger reading this. If there is anything i can do to help, let me know.
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So is the scam to tell people he can fix their boards, then wait a few weeks, admit defeat, then offer to buy them for a reduced rate, fix them and sell them on?

If the plan backfires, pretend to post them and conveniently lose the tracking number?

Is that the cliff notes version? :wtf: