The great macdebate (now with roids)

[Rossyra]

[cRacKh0rN]

I'm pretty horned by the Lumia 920.
Not so horned by the iPhone 5 tbh.

Where is the NFC? 8-megapixel Camera? It still can't drive a car for me?

[Rossyra]

[cRacKh0rN]

I did actually laugh out loud

[pubjoe]

My secret shame is that I sometimes click the view comments button on macrumors.

I don't know why I do it. It's like scratching athletes foot or peeling those bits of skin around your fingernails. I know I'm going to regret it, but I do it anyway. The comments are just so immensely stupid and it takes great effort to stop myself posting in a foolish errand to put right their moronic drivel.

One person posts complete **** dribble, then another might point out the **** but they do it with a counter **** explosion. Then I look around at the nuclear **** and wonder whatever possessed me to click 'view "comments"' in the first place, but I know that one day I will probably do it again.

[pubjoe]

Speaking of the iphone 5, and all the other new phones like the S3, the note and the Lumia vX... They all look nice to be honest, but personally I'm not wetting myself to upgrade and I'm not feeling betrayed and let down and wanting to jump ship. I'm just going to stick with my (still lovely) iphone 4. It's done me well for quite a while now and will hopefully continue to do so. I may well just keep it until it eventually dies (even though, bizarrely, that's not the smartest thing to do financially in the long run).

But still, an iphone 4 and a decent enough for me £10 a Month O2 contract ("for long time customers" apparently) can't be bad. It includes data tethering in that price too. I don't want to lose that contract by getting a new handset on pay-monthly and I'm definitely not feeling 'it' for any phone enough to buy a new one outright.

When the original iphone came out, I was so impressed that I spent what seemed a lot of cash at the time to import one from the US, even though for a few Months with no network support, it would just be a wifi-only pocket internet device. A nice simple PDA was a long time coming and back then the iphone was a gorgeous fresh new thing worth getting excited about. The new phones cost even more now than my impatiently imported one did and are nowhere near as impressive for the time - not even fractionally. We've seen it all now.

Phones shmones, next techtoy now please.

[cRacKh0rN]

Joe, how many mins do you get for that tenner a month? I pay 30 and don't have tethering!
I'm on Simplicity but I get double the minutes for the same reason, but I would much rather have tethering and less.

[pubjoe]

I've just looked on my account and it says simplicity 300, but I think the CS girl said she made some tweaks, plus a cheaper price.

It's £10.50 and I get...

300 anywhere minutes
500 O2 minutes
unlimited texts
100MB data *
Tethering **

* At first I was put off by the data as I was switching over from an old unlimited contract which is no longer available, but when she told me what my average usage was, I was quite surprised how low it was. There's a reason it's low, data networks are **** here.

The good thing about the 100MB cap is that when you've used it up, you don't get charged or blocked, you just get speed limited. I tend to run over the 100MB on about the 10th-12th day of the Month, but I cannot notice any difference between the limited speed and the non-limited speed. Yay for **** 3G data signals.

** The tethering is thrown in free. I had to text "WIFI" to 2121 first to activate it though.

The minutes are a bit tight but my most used contacts are with O2 and I just keep an eye on the O2 usage app thingy. I used to be on a massive contract, but I rarely needed that many minutes.

[supergoose]

I wish i would get free texts with my contract. 30€/month and i still have to pay 0.19€/text and 0.29€/minute. and i'm stuck with an outdated desire hd that didn't even receive the promised update to ics.

I was actually thinking about getting an iphone just because the resale value is higher.

[pubjoe]

I was actually thinking about getting an iphone just because the resale value is higher.

Keeping up with the latest apple stuff can be surprisingly thrifty for this reason. If you pay under rrp and don't buy their crazily priced upgrades, the resale loss is tiny. That's why keeping my phone is probably not the most cost efficient thing to do. Annually upgrading and selling achieves one of the lowest costs of ownership.

0.19€/text? That's terrible! I find myself texting an awful lot these days. That would cost me a fortune.

[supergoose]

That's why I try to limit myself to no more than 10 texts per month. Not fun.

[pubjoe]

I see dockable phones gaining traction soon. Just need a standardised interface.

I've just realised the iphone 5 and galaxy S3 both get around the same geekbench score of a typical 5 year old laptop.

[markedkiller78]

For £12.50, I get

500 mins
Unlimited text
1gb data

It's a standard tesco iPhone pay monthly deal. I think it had a tie in for 3 months. The data charges are silly if you go over your limit, but most are. Tesco are on the O2 network too, so you get the same (****) reception.

I remember when it used to be cheaper to get a pay monthly contract and 'free' phone, now the deals a awful. It's generally much cheaper to buy the phone sim free and pick up a cheap pay monthly deal.

[cools]

What mark said. If you can afford the upfront cost go PAYG or 30day rolling contract.

[SuperPang]

I can't see this breaking any sales records

2 million pre-orders in 24hrs, double that of the 4S. Crazy ****.

[cools]

I'll "meh". The only device that remotely takes my fancy is the Galaxy Nexus, but it's not 250 quid better than my Mini Pro

[Pete]

Any phone screen size smaller than S3 just makes my eyes hurt now.

[cools]

I used to carry around a PDA and phone for years so my reticence towards larger phones doesn't make much sense. Palm Graffiti was a far more accurate method of input than I manage on a phone screen keyboard of similar size though with two thumbs or a forefinger, maybe that's something to do with it.

[emphatic]

*updating to iOS 6.0*

[markedkiller78]

DL it now. Will be good to see what the maps are like.