The best 31K monitor

[Jan]

i have to say that i`m very impressed with the PF Toshs 15k picture !

[niconiconico]

BTW, what is the complete reference of the tri-sync Toshiba ?

Info or intox, i dunno remember who told me this, but apparently you cannot change the RGB in the tri-Toshs, as the setup is factory-made, and you must possess a special technician-pots-connector to put on the amp of the chassis, and do your setup.

Someone can confirm or infirm ?

[tinchen3112]

you can change rgb in the service menue from the toshiba chassis!
btw, the chassis make the best picture i have ever seen in 15k and 31k. even better than a pfx!
sadly they was only in the first gen. of e3s and a short time in japanese net citys, so its nearly impossible to get one of this babys new or used.
someone here told me(andygeezer?), that the monitor/chassis combi from toshiba was too expensive for taito/sega, so they took other cheaper monitors for their cabs.

to enter the service menu i found only 1 way, but i´m sure there must be a button combi....


i have plugged a 10k poti between menu (function) and ground....
when I adjust 5k on the poti and press the button, I get the geometry setup onscreen, 0 ohm I get the menu where I can change the colors and when I adjust the poti to 3 k I can change the hsync....


tinchen

[markedkiller78]

The only info I have on accessing the service menu is the same as nico, do you know of sme other way?

I can't get into any extended menus on mine

[Jan]

hi !

you can access the geometry , the color menue and the Hsync. ( thx to Frank!)

i fixed my geometry problem by adjusting the Hsync , switched it from 48 to 52. its not perfect yet but alot better than before.(thx to Grant!)

before
http://www.neo-arcadia.de/to2.jpg

work in progress pic
http://www.neo-arcadia.de/to3.JPG

[tinchen3112]

the test grip looks great now.
i think you wont get the pic better, cause you never got such a perfect geometry on a crt as it is on a lcd screen.

[andygeezer]

the test grip looks great now.
i think you wont get the pic better, cause you never got such a perfect geometry on a crt as it is on a lcd screen.

My brand new Tosh PF has perfect geometry.. But then it was new in box, it has had about 20hours use.

[markedkiller78]

hi !

you can access the geometry , the color menue and the Hsync. ( thx to Frank!)

i fixed my geometry problem by adjusting the Hsync , switched it from 48 to 52. its not perfect yet but alot better than

So did you need to do this

i have plugged a 10k poti between menu (function) and ground....

or is there some other easier way?

Mine is pretty much spot on, but I would like to get into the extended menu just to mess about.

[Jan]

Mine is pretty much spot on

till you put it into an AW/E3

the frame seem to be very magnetic, if i take the screen out of the cab the geometry is perfect.

[markedkiller78]

Mine is mounted in a Naomi on a sega frame. There is a bit of compression on the left & it's not 100% straight, but it's still very good for an FST

[tetsujin]

Mine is pretty much spot on

till you put it into an AW/E3

the frame seem to be very magnetic, if i take the screen out of the cab the geometry is perfect.

is that due to the speakers at the top of the cab? have you tried it with the speakers removed??

[Jan]

yeah , its definitly the frame itself. no doubt.

[emphatic]

yeah , its definitly the frame itself. no doubt.

Can you think of a fix for this? Would a degauss wand work, and if so, do you have to strip the cab so the frame is bare?

[markedkiller78]

Come to think of it, I did have to buy a degauss wand for this monitor. Mine had a trerrible blue patch on the left side. I put it down to madnatisation when I moved it, but they could just be very prone to it?

[Jan]

the wand fixed the color problem ( mine were on the right side btw ^^) but not the geometry, i had to adjust the Hsync.

i have no idea whats up with these cabs , kinda odd. the PFX seems to have problems with the frames as well.

[andygeezer]

Mine is pretty much spot on

till you put it into an AW/E3

the frame seem to be very magnetic, if i take the screen out of the cab the geometry is perfect.

Putting a monitor like that in one of those cabs, would be like putting a ferrari engine in a ford..

[neokoen]

Putting a monitor like that in one of those cabs, would be like putting a ferrari engine in a ford..

Yeah it's not without its problems, butt I like the idea of kicking BMW but with a Ford
Under the hood is what counts to me

[hedorah]

Can someone tell me the difference between the MS2930 and MS2931?

[grantspain]

Can someone tell me the difference between the MS2930 and MS2931?

2930 is analogue with manual res switching
2931 is digital with auto res switching

[hedorah]

Thanks Grant,

Any major difference on picture quality? Or are they pretty equal in that regards?