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Re: Best arcade Tetris or similar games?
Has anybody played Tetris Kiwamemichi on Naomi ?
I had Mickey mouse Tetris one time, was on some strange N64 arcade board.
I had Mickey mouse Tetris one time, was on some strange N64 arcade board.
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I've played it, and colour_thief as well. If you made a thread about it on TC I'm sure people would be willing to give you tips.The Enigmatic Form wrote:I stumbled across this site when I searched for Sega Tetris specific and Tetris stuff in general.
Seems like no one plays Sega Tetris...
I won't argue with thatThe Enigmatic Form wrote:I think I really need to buy TGM3...I´m on a Tetris trip right now, there is no other solution.


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I heard it´s quite rare...but there´s a video on youtube of the PS2 port. Looks very reduced.Irmscher wrote:Has anybody played Tetris Kiwamemichi on Naomi ?
Seta Aleck?I had Mickey mouse Tetris one time, was on some strange N64 arcade board.
Actually, I have been thinking about this too, I´ll probably do it when I have the time again to visit even another forum.mufunyo wrote:I've played it, and colour_thief as well. If you made a thread about it on TC I'm sure people would be willing to give you tips.
I reached Mount Rushmore (I think it´s Level 12) once. I usually die in Level 10, when the crap stacks so high that I can´t rotate the Is anymore. Do you remember if the game runs faster and faster after that, or are there slower levels mixed in between?
Does it really make such a difference? You said TGM3 also has an "easy" mode, but you never know what´s easy for them.I won't argue with thatAlthough you could also work your way up the TGM series, starting with TGM1. If you're serious about getting into Tetris, transitioning from TGM to TGM2TAP, to TGM3Ti will provide a smooth learning curve, and a more manageable initial investment too (TGM1 can be found for as low as about €100 if you look hard enough). Or you could do what I've done, which is to MAME TGM1 and 2, and buy TGM3.

Usually, I am really persistent when I am learning a hard game.
Of course, I don´t know if Tetris will be a permanent thing for me, or if I just like it that much at the moment because it´s very different from the stuff I usually play.
I think I could sell TGM3 without much loss if I would not play it that much anymore.
I am massively into 31 kHz stuff, you know.

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I haven't really gotten very far without continues on Sega Tetris, but I'm pretty sure that the emulator I'm using (NullDC) has some severe input issues, at least with this particular game (pieces shoot too far left or right, even when tapping the buttons very lightly). What I know about Sega Tetris is that it has a very deadly combination, namely a "pure" randomiser (which means it uses unaltered rand() output to decide the piece sequence, whereas games like TGM use a special randomiser to prevent "piece drought"), in combination with no wallkicks at all (a wallkick means shifting a piece left or right when rotating to prevent rotation being impossible in certain situations where other pieces would block normal rotation). This basically means that you stack high in anticipation of a certain piece (usually the I-piece, aka "stick" or "male chicken piece"), and then when said piece doesn't come, get immobilised from the high stack, and top out.The Enigmatic Form wrote:I reached Mount Rushmore (I think it´s Level 12) once. I usually die in Level 10, when the crap stacks so high that I can´t rotate the Is anymore. Do you remember if the game runs faster and faster after that, or are there slower levels mixed in between?
Well, there are certain differences between the games that make each game very unique and desirable even alongside newer versions.The Enigmatic Form wrote:Does it really make such a difference? You said TGM3 also has an "easy" mode, but you never know what´s easy for them.![]()
Usually, I am really persistent when I am learning a hard game.
TGM1 does not have firm drop (like Sega Tetris), and has a pretty harsh randomiser (though it isn't "pure" as described above). The former makes time attack a very challenging aspect, because you are limited by soft drop speed in the early levels of the game, and thus have to stack high so that pieces don't have to be soft dropped all the way down the well, losing precious time, but stacking high with a randomiser like TGM1's can be pretty dangerous. TGM1 has 20G, which is the maximum gravity possible, from halfway into the game. But the lockdown timings remain constant throughout the whole game (and are pretty slow), so it's a very good starting point to learn high gravity. Also, the grades are pretty easy to acquire, and most people that focus on the game can reach Grandmaster grade within 9 months of picking the game up.
TGM2TAP (from here on referred to as TAP) has firm drop (pieces drop down immediately if you want them to), which enables players to play much faster, but the timings gradually get tighter, and even though the game is fixed at 20G from level 500, it becomes a lot harder with each section (a section is 100 levels). In addition to that, grading is based on speed, and there are specific requirements to attaining Master or Grandmaster grade. But the randomiser is less likely to starve the player of certain pieces, which makes stacking more relaxed than in TGM. TAP also includes easier and harder modes for the first time, there is a Normal mode which is a score attack (although there is a score bonus for each second you shave off your time), and ends at 300 levels, and a Death mode which is 20G all the way from start to end, and focuses only on survival.
TGM3Ti (fom here on referred to as Ti) has a finer grained grade system than TGM and TAP, and getting grades above S9 requires the player to play exceptionally fast. When a player plays through a section very fast, he/she receives a "COOL!!" message below the screen (much like in rhythm games like Beatmania), which increases the grade by one, but also increases the speed of the next section, making it even harder to survive. Ti however has the addition of a hold piece and extended wallkicks (so pieces are even less likely to become immobile), which makes the game much easier survival-wise than the previous games, and makes playing TGM or TAP when used to playing Ti a tough experience, because you are used to luxuries which don't exist in the earlier games.
So like I said before, going from TGM to TAP to Ti is the most natural way of learning Tetris, because as the games get harder, the player earns certain features that make gameplay more manageable.
For most people, Tetris is a terminal conditionThe Enigmatic Form wrote:Of course, I don´t know if Tetris will be a permanent thing for me, or if I just like it that much at the moment because it´s very different from the stuff I usually play.


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Thanks for your extensive reply, I really appreciate it.
I really like the hold feature and the wallkick system in TI, watching movies of it is what actually awakened my interest in Tetris.
How is the easy mode in TI?
I really like the hold feature and the wallkick system in TI, watching movies of it is what actually awakened my interest in Tetris.
How is the easy mode in TI?
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Well, it's... EasyThe Enigmatic Form wrote:How is the easy mode in TI?


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Hi all, new here ...and gotta start somewhere
To the OP, as you're into vs fighters, Super Puzzle Fighter II X (CPS II) is an ideal fit, as it combines the Tetris/Columns 'fit the blocks' gameplay with nice SF-style animations based on Super Gem Fighter Mini Mix (also CPSII). Mentioned early in the thread, but worth a seconding.
My most played PS1 puzzler back in the day (so going back some
), and still to this day... and now that I've embarked on the "full-sized arcade" side of things
'tis of course on my list of must-haves.

To the OP, as you're into vs fighters, Super Puzzle Fighter II X (CPS II) is an ideal fit, as it combines the Tetris/Columns 'fit the blocks' gameplay with nice SF-style animations based on Super Gem Fighter Mini Mix (also CPSII). Mentioned early in the thread, but worth a seconding.
My most played PS1 puzzler back in the day (so going back some


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There's Sega ages Tetris for the ps2 with 480p 31 khz option!
And an updated version of Sega Tetris called: New Century.
It's cheap from yesasia and highly recomended
And an updated version of Sega Tetris called: New Century.
It's cheap from yesasia and highly recomended
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I received TGM3 today. 
Played only Master World Mode until now, just got promoted to Rank 4 after my 8th game with user account.
At first, I only tried out the game without logging in, had to got to be used to the somewhat different feeling, but after only a few tries I really started to enjoy it, the controls are perfect. What confused me at first is the wacky control scheme with the three buttons to rotate and the piece preview. Also, I only played World Mode, because I read it´s the more recent and more flexible one. Should I continue playing World, or is Classic more recommended for beginners?

Played only Master World Mode until now, just got promoted to Rank 4 after my 8th game with user account.
At first, I only tried out the game without logging in, had to got to be used to the somewhat different feeling, but after only a few tries I really started to enjoy it, the controls are perfect. What confused me at first is the wacky control scheme with the three buttons to rotate and the piece preview. Also, I only played World Mode, because I read it´s the more recent and more flexible one. Should I continue playing World, or is Classic more recommended for beginners?
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Lucky you.
Did you find somewhere doing it for a good price or did you have to pay top dollar?
Did you find somewhere doing it for a good price or did you have to pay top dollar?
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Because of my good experiences with Sophia Corp., I ordered it there. Price didn´t go down in the last months, unfortunately.
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Classic is for pro players, World is for beginners. Congrats on buying Ti! Be sure to post your scoresThe Enigmatic Form wrote:I received TGM3 today.
Played only Master World Mode until now, just got promoted to Rank 4 after my 8th game with user account.
At first, I only tried out the game without logging in, had to got to be used to the somewhat different feeling, but after only a few tries I really started to enjoy it, the controls are perfect. What confused me at first is the wacky control scheme with the three buttons to rotate and the piece preview. Also, I only played World Mode, because I read it´s the more recent and more flexible one. Should I continue playing World, or is Classic more recommended for beginners?


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mufunyo wrote: Classic is for pro players, World is for you.

I´ll post scores when I don´t suck anymore.
Is there a reason for the different button layout in World and Classic?
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My tinfoil hat theory is that it's to prevent seasoned players from switching to World rule, but the actual reason is that Henk's Holy Scriptures dictate that the rightmost button should rotate clockwise, which doesn't really work out well for Ti's 3-button system.The Enigmatic Form wrote:Is there a reason for the different button layout in World and Classic?
