Why buy a board when you can mame??

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Basically someone needs to come out with a *proper* multiboard based on groovy thats just plug&play without ****. Who knows, one day China might start focussing on quality... :lol: I know i'd buy a multiboard based on groovy (or equivalent working) in the blink of an eye.
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arcnl wrote:Basically someone needs to come out with a *proper* multiboard based on groovy thats just plug&play without ****. Who knows, one day China might start focussing on quality... :lol: I know i'd buy a multiboard based on groovy (or equivalent working) in the blink of an eye.
True, for me to play mame I would want to buy a finished set-up, plug n play.
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What front end are you using cools? Do you need to record all the videos yourself?
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Thts a cool frontend cools. Is that Mala? I just use Maximus arcade. I wish there were more skins around though, I can't stand the huge woody on the select screen :/

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"Huge woody" :hinthint:
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monouchi wrote:
arcnl wrote:Basically someone needs to come out with a *proper* multiboard based on groovy thats just plug&play without ****. Who knows, one day China might start focussing on quality... :lol: I know i'd buy a multiboard based on groovy (or equivalent working) in the blink of an eye.
True, for me to play mame I would want to buy a finished set-up, plug n play.
Actually there is a french guy selling a groovymame plug and play solution on neo arcadia forum. A bit pricey for my own taste but does the job fine. Look for stick cross box.
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Why mame when you can meme?

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Seriously though, nice job cools! :)

I would love a setup like that, as with most though I just don't know if I can sit down and go through all the config etc.

Someone should totally sell ready to go setups, or maybe create a list of known working/compatible parts and then supply a ready configured HDD image. :awe: No ROMz of course :shifty:
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Julien416 wrote:
monouchi wrote:
arcnl wrote:Basically someone needs to come out with a *proper* multiboard based on groovy thats just plug&play without ****. Who knows, one day China might start focussing on quality... :lol: I know i'd buy a multiboard based on groovy (or equivalent working) in the blink of an eye.
True, for me to play mame I would want to buy a finished set-up, plug n play.
Actually there is a french guy selling a groovymame plug and play solution on neo arcadia forum. A bit pricey for my own taste but does the job fine. Look for stick cross box.
Interesting but couldnt find it.
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Fair play cools, that looks like emulation done proper. A lot of faffing to get there though. That's half the reason I don't do any kind of warez.
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An awful lot of faffing to figure stuff out, which is why I try and document things and have been helping out where possible with the Linux side - the GroovyArcade system would be a faffproof setup and work on a greater range of hardware, just requiring a cab interface.

I've got little skill in manufacturing stuff, but am good at software bending and testing ;)

Heck, the only reason I really know my way around Linux is because of MAME.

Once I'm done with the Pony setup completely (still some niggles I don't like) I'll publish the layout and config for the frontend. You can use GroovyMAME easily enough without any frontend (now) but its not exactly pretty or usable with a full ROM set and just a stick.
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monouchi wrote:
Julien416 wrote:
monouchi wrote:
Actually there is a french guy selling a groovymame plug and play solution on neo arcadia forum. A bit pricey for my own taste but does the job fine. Look for stick cross box.
Interesting but couldnt find it.
http://www.neo-arcadia.com/forum/viewto ... 14&t=44199"

Cross box actually...
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It's one of those things that no-one can be arsed to do for free, and few want to deal with the politics of selling a mame+roms package for profit.

The biggest job imo (and the one that no one ever does) is to check and fix any rom config issues, or if not possible, removing all the crap. Cools has made strides here.

Xennepp had a promising start imo, but the non-working **** hadn't really been filtered out and a lot of modelines were missing. The hardware was good but the full product needed tweaking to work properly and upgrade from a 4000-rom glitch festival - which leads me to another problem with supplying a package... Continued support. That didn't quite work out with Xennepp.
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Not me, it's all down to the frontend - well, with some input from me so that the filtering can be fully effective. There's another one that's in beta that is at it's core a total clone of A-M, remains to be seen how flexible it is though.

I wouldn't go near selling a MAME box with a large bargepole, with or without roms. I'd have to not include the MAME executable for a start (let alone the licensing thing, I'm friends in real life with a whole bunch of the guys that do the development work and dump stuff - all of which is done as a hobby, it'd be like spitting in their faces), and deal with the inevitable swathe of support issues and people wanting to do things that aren't out-of-the-box. Better to document and educate.

As for the Crossbox - he's making a big chunk of profit from that spec and price just on the hardware, and that's the least of the criticism I could level at it. I do like the movestrip, but it highlights needless complexity (why is insert credit a button combo? Just map it to the start button).

With catver.ini and the MAME XML database loaded by the frontend you can filter out 99% of what's not playable on the cabinet and categorise it by genre. No hand picking required.
markedkiller78 wrote:What front end are you using cools? Do you need to record all the videos yourself?
The logos are from Hyperspin, and the videos are from emu-movies.com. I know there are torrents with them, but I paid for Hyperspin and Emu-movies accounts which allows me to use something called Hypersync. I loathe the whole concept for it (it's Windows only and proprietory - why can't I just use FTP?!), but it means I can download all the artwork in one hit and keep it up to date with newer/missing stuff.

It looks almost as nice with just an ingame snapshot as the background, or with the game flyer. The logos kind of tie everything together so I wouldn't be without them.

What I'm getting at is anyone selling a premade box like this would be crapping over the MAME team, the Hyperspin art guys, and the guys making the videos - I bet they don't give any kickbacks to them for their work, which is an ongoing effort.

It's all less work than it appears though. So long as you can install Windows, connect some cables and copy & paste text and files you'd be done within an hour or two.
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cools wrote:Better to document and educate.
Oh yes, I completely agree.

I partially understand and fully appreciate the distribution issue with Mame.

It's just a shame that still leaves people buying multi-game boards. Many people will just never attempt to configure their own cab PC - which is fair enough of course. After playing Super Turbo at yours a couple of years ago, I was saying how I'd love to connect over GGPO and play some people like Richy and Guy. I've even considered seeing how cheaply I can make a GGPO box and gifting them one, just to play them at ST more than once every two years. :oops:
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I missed the front end part, is it arcade Mame?
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Front end is http://attractmode.org", with my own layout. I will upload this layout somewhere soon, it needs a few final tweaks to it first.
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cools wrote:Front end is http://attractmode.org", with my own layout. I will upload this layout somewhere soon, it needs a few final tweaks to it first.
Ah, great and thanks :)
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Joe: I'm not entirely happy with GGPO on the E3, it works reasonably well but it's nowhere near as nice as Xbox 360 Third Strike that uses the same tech. Setting it up is fairly straightforward though.

I still reckon if someone kicks off an AO league there'd be interest. I could now compete at least ;)
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Should also point out that a good chunk of my time is spent in games that are either exceptionally rare or non-JAMMA.
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Jamma loom cover received...
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Although my loom was mint anyway:
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Thanks for the heads up Matt ;)