Sega Naomi restoration WIP - Updated Sept 2015

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Re: Sega Naomi restoration work in progress Updated Sat 14/7

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You're welcome :D

That's ace that it's all working at least :awe:

The whole BIOS thing's a bit nippy but from what I've read I think that most games are compatible with the Japanese G BIOS on that link, albeit with some Japanese text. Hopefully someone more informed'll chime in if that's not the case.

Research is half the fun :awe:
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Re: Sega Naomi restoration work in progress Updated Sat 14/7

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Great stuff Paulie, I'll definitely be using this info when I come to set up a GD-Rom unit in my Naomi. :D
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Re: Sega Naomi restoration work in progress Updated Sat 14/7

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crunchywasp wrote:You're welcome :D

That's ace that it's all working at least :awe:

The whole BIOS thing's a bit nippy but from what I've read I think that most games are compatible with the Japanese G BIOS on that link, albeit with some Japanese text. Hopefully someone more informed'll chime in if that's not the case.

Research is half the fun :awe:
Yeah I'm well chuffed :awe: BIOS yep like you said not 100% stright forward, I think I was just a bit unlucky with teh 2 games I have but like you say every days a school day :)
jase wrote:Great stuff Paulie, I'll definitely be using this info when I come to set up a GD-Rom unit in my Naomi. :D

No worries buddy, I hope it helps a few ppl out, crunchy was a great help to me with this set up :awe:

Fitting Franco's JVS>JAMMA loom in my cab. I must say a big thanks to IDChappy for letting me take his place on Franny's list, cheers Ian :thumbup:

Now thanks to FrancoB :awe: First off it's amazing, but we all know that!
So what do you get (Franny does different options but this is my spec) and this is what do you do with all the cables and connectors.

@Frannylicious if I have any info wrong PLMK and ill change it, I'm not quite a :ugeek: yet ;)

I only want to use this to power my Atomiswave as my monitor is a Nano 31Khz only. But I got all the trimmings just in case I put it in another cab in the future.

1. JAMMA edge - obviously connects to your JAMMA boards edge connector.
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2. CPS2 Kick harness - Not using at the moment but it would provide extra button suppport for CPS2 games
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3. Power - 5v, 12v and GND wired to an 8pin AMP UP for connecting to the Sun ATX PSU
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4. Audio - RCA plugs again I'm not using this
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Im using this little extra loom as my sound is direct from the mobo to the R&L speaker connectors (again had crafted by F)
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5. Video - wired to a HD15 breakout socket for VGA cable connection - I'm not using this as the Atomiswave mobo has VGA conector but I presume you just plug your VGA cable into it.
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6. 9 pin amp up - it says "This is connected to -5v, 5v, 12v and GND. I added this as a kind of voltage IO port. Adding this means that you could easily add a negatron for -5v support. It also provides a 5v/12v source for things like a VGA scaler etc. I doubled up some of the inputs so that some voltmeters I am working on could also be added. obviously I'm not using this but I presume this gives me the option scaler which I may try due to having a 31khz only monitor so I may look into that.
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7. Control AMP UPs. - this is for all your sticks and buttons
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8. Coin Service Test - Coin input wired to a three pin amp up to connect to the output from a credit board Service and test wired to a piggy back JST NH housing and toggle switch to allow the JVS controls to remain plugged in as well as the JAMMA controls.
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And when you have connected all the up you get this
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Re: Sega Naomi restoration work in progress Updated Sat 14/7

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Great write up there Paulie, thanks for posting that up, very informative :thumbup:
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Re: Sega Naomi restoration work in progress Updated Sat 14/7

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Nice work Paulie, very nice indeed.

If you need a BIOS doing, I can pop over with my programmer and eraser and keep trying different ones until we get one that works ;)

Cheers,

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instant_classic wrote:Great write up there Paulie, thanks for posting that up, very informative :thumbup:
+1 :awe: I'm really looking forward to getting my hands on one of Franco's looms - I'll be sure to follow your guide :thumbup:
alienmame wrote:Nice work Paulie, very nice indeed.

If you need a BIOS doing, I can pop over with my programmer and eraser and keep trying different ones until we get one that works ;)

Cheers,

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alienmame wrote:Nice work Paulie, very nice indeed.

If you need a BIOS doing, I can pop over with my programmer and eraser and keep trying different ones until we get one that works ;)

Cheers,

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Cheers Ralph, thats very good of you, I'll get the Foster in :awe:
I'm just trying to find which one/s I should be using with what, it's a bit of a minefield as there seems to be a lot of missing/conflicting info. Expect a pm buddy as soon as I know my **** from my elbow ;)

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Re: Sega Naomi restoration work in progress Updated Sat 14/7

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Paulie wrote:
Cheers Ralph, thats very good of you, I'll get the Foster in :awe:
Oh, he'll want more than the one :awe:

Thanks for taking the pics P-d00d!

Crunchy, if you want any ROMs burning just give me a shout and I'll se what I can do.
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FrancoB wrote:
Paulie wrote:
Cheers Ralph, thats very good of you, I'll get the Foster in :awe:
Oh, he'll want more than the one :awe:
:palm: :lol: I should probably read what I've typed before posting.
FrancoB wrote:Thanks for taking the pics P-d00d!
No worries F, I'll retake some another day, as a few are really blurred. It's pretty dark in the garage and for some reason my camera does not like it at all.
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FrancoB wrote: Crunchy, if you want any ROMs burning just give me a shout and I'll se what I can do.
Cheers for the kind offer :D I'm grand right now thanks but I'll certainly bear it in mind :awe:
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Paulie wrote:
Expect a pm buddy as soon as I know my **** from my elbow ;)
No problemo d00d, I'll sit here on my elbows waiting patiently :awe:
Paulie wrote:
crunchywasp wrote:I wish I had a Ralph living nearby :awe: 8-)
Yeah it's 8-) Ralph really knows his onions, and he's a true gent to boot :D
Thanks for that d00dz. Offer open via post to anyone else BTW ;)
FrancoB wrote:Oh, he'll want more than the one :awe:
Moi?

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crunchywasp wrote:I wish I had a Ralph living nearby :awe: 8-)
Don't we all :awe:
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For my new uni resto, I will be using the Paulie method :awe:

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Nice one buddy, I guarantee that those products work a treat, with a bit of elbow grease I'm sure she will come up a treat :awe:

Still need to finish mine off :oops:
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Well the plastics look a bit grubby in that way that soap and water won't shift. I'd rather not paint if I can get away with it as it's not something I've done before, so if I can get a finish anything like yours I'll be happy 8-)
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Yeah i would only paint as a last resort, imperfect plastic>painted plastics any day but that's just me.

I still want to retrobrite my plastics just to try to get it really white although to be fair they have come up very nicely. I'm critical and I would say they are now an 8 or 8 1/2 out of 10 and they were shocking when I got the cab.

Good luck with the restoration matey 8-)
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mehtrobright. All I seem to read is how great it was for a few months till everything went yellow again. :problem:
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Re: Sega Naomi restoration work in progress Updated Sat 14/7

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Yeah I met up with tetsujin the other week and he said the exact same thing. As I say I've not tried it so I don't know.

Has anyone here tried it and would you share how as it worked out for you?
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Paulie, slightly stupid question, but do you use the stainless steel cleaner on the plastics? Your original post would suggest so, just wanted to check I'm not being thick and you only used it on the metal parts ;)

Also, looking at your cp upper, was any of the plastic discoloured before you began? Mine is grubby in a few areas like the finish has actually gone a bit grey, I'm wondering if this is something which is fixable or if yours looks so good simply because it was mainly just dirty to begin with.
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Yep I used it on the plastics before the Novus 3>2>1

Yes it was discoloured as well as having a few fag burns, and general filth.I was really unhappy with the plastics after scrubbing with washing up liquid and a few other bits that I had under the kitchen sink. And i was really happy after using the SS cleaner. Obviously if its really yellow, then it will stay yellow but it should take at least take it a shade whiter.

it made a huge difference to mine albeit with a lot of elbow grease I spent hours on both the lower bucket of the CP and the upper. You have to be very carful with the top monitor surround plastics as thats nothing like as tough as the CP plastics and you can really go for it on those bits. Ive found it works great on stains that soapy water won't touch on any part of the cab too