SNK SC19-4 restoration (work in progress) Updated 29/3/12

[Paulie]

I got my dream SNK cab this week. A SNK SC19-4 from RKLOK, overall its a really nice cab and I'm over the moon with it but it needs some work as I would like to try and get it looking as minty as possible.

Heres what it looked like on arrival







My 10 (EDIT now 12) jobs to do:

1. Give the metal shell a really good clean both inside and out, I'm going to T-cut it and polish it all up so it should be pretty shiny when I've done.

2. Polish the hood (I have not used Novus before, but from what I have read thats what I need, unless anyone can recommend anything else)

3. Re-spray the coin box as the paint on the front is a well worn and looks scruffy.

4. The control panel needs a lot of attention (by far the worst bit of my cab) the left hand side plastic edge has a bit broken off and the whole thing in general is very tired and it's not sitting correctly maybe because it's a bit loose. The red metal front needs respraying, I think I might be able to keep the CP art as it's original and it's not too bad (famous last words) so I may be able to work with that, if I can't then a repro will be in order. BTW how do you take the CP off/ access it??? I've not had a really good look yet but there are screws, (5 I think) on the inside of the front directly behind the CP also theres a spring and some kind of catch or little lever?? there are also 2 screws on each side that attach the white front to the sides of the cab so does that need to come off too to gain acess???

5. Replace all the buttons.

6. Clean up the sicks and I need a new blue ball top as it has a crack in it.

7. Look at the side art, it looks pretty bad in places but I think it has a clear film over the art that's all scraped but the actual art I think I can work with thats if I can get that clear film off, if not then it's a repro job I know Rossyra has done an excellent job of providing the files on wiki.

8. Get a repro plexi (it's missing on my cab) hopefully I can buy one from Franco.

9. Get a repro marquee or if a miricle happens then an original (I don't think its an original on my cab and it's completly knackerd anyway).

10. Re-spray the base.

11. Change the Two slot mobo for a four slot.

12. Not a job but I only have 2x 100 Yen coins so I would like to buy some more.

If any one has any spare bits left over from your SC19 cabs or can point me in the right direction with anything or you have any tips then please let me know.

One final thing who else has one of these cabs or have owned one in the past.

I will update the thread as and when I do the jobs

[nvs]

4. The control panel needs a lot of attention (by far the worst bit of my cab) the left hand side plastic edge has a bit broken off and the whole thing in general is very tired and it's not sitting correctly maybe because it's a bit loose. The red metal front needs respraying, I think I might be able to keep the CP art as it's original and it's not too bad (famous last words) so I may be able to work with that, if I can't then a repro will be in order. BTW how do you take the CP off/ access it??? I've not had a really good look yet but there are screws, (5 I think) on the inside of the front directly behind the CP also theres a spring and some kind of catch or little lever?? there are also 2 screws on each side that attach the white front to the sides of the cab so does that need to come off too to gain acess???

Open the door, feel for a sliding spring loaded rod up behind the control panel. Slide it and the panel will release
from the shell. Can't recall if any nuts were locking it down (the cab is currently in storage, but someone else can confirm).

6. Clean up the sticks and I need a new blue ball top as it has a crack in it.

Kern's got some sticks in stock to suit, and/or LS32 refresh kits.

7. Look at the side art, it looks pretty bad in places but I think it has a clear film over the art that's all scraped but the actual art I think I can work with thats if I can get that clear film off, if not then it's a repro job I know Rossyra has done an excellent job of providing the files on wiki.

Rossyra's art is great, I used it on my cabs and was super pleased.

8. Get a repro plexi (it's missing on my cab) hopefully I can buy one from Franco.

Franco's are the business. Perfect fit.

9. Get a repro marquee or if a miricle happens then an original (I don't think its an original on my cab and it's completly knackerd anyway).

This will be tricky - the original has black borders around the mini marquees and a nice SNK printed logo.

10. Not a job but I only have 2x 100 Yen coins so I would like to buy some more.

Just gave all of mine to the bank, but I might be able to help you out.. PM me.

One final thing who else has one of these cabs or have owned one in the past.

I had two, still have one. Rossyra obviously had one, and Pang has an SC25.

Enjoy!

[Rossyra]

Richy has the one that used to be mine

redstallone has one too

[Rossyra]

Farecla polish is very good.

Wonderbanana was the expert on polishes, in fact he enginereed the Farecla polish. Not seen him in a long time though

There are 2 screws holding the slide-lock in place, one should have a spring attached

[Paulie]

4. The control panel needs a lot of attention (by far the worst bit of my cab) the left hand side plastic edge has a bit broken off and the whole thing in general is very tired and it's not sitting correctly maybe because it's a bit loose. The red metal front needs respraying, I think I might be able to keep the CP art as it's original and it's not too bad (famous last words) so I may be able to work with that, if I can't then a repro will be in order. BTW how do you take the CP off/ access it??? I've not had a really good look yet but there are screws, (5 I think) on the inside of the front directly behind the CP also theres a spring and some kind of catch or little lever?? there are also 2 screws on each side that attach the white front to the sides of the cab so does that need to come off too to gain acess???

Open the door, feel for a sliding spring loaded rod up behind the control panel. Slide it and the panel will release
from the shell. Can't recall if any nuts were locking it down (the cab is currently in storage, but someone else can confirm).

6. Clean up the sticks and I need a new blue ball top as it has a crack in it.

Kern's got some sticks in stock to suit, and/or LS32 refresh kits.

7. Look at the side art, it looks pretty bad in places but I think it has a clear film over the art that's all scraped but the actual art I think I can work with thats if I can get that clear film off, if not then it's a repro job I know Rossyra has done an excellent job of providing the files on wiki.

Rossyra's art is great, I used it on my cabs and was super pleased.

8. Get a repro plexi (it's missing on my cab) hopefully I can buy one from Franco.

Franco's are the business. Perfect fit.

9. Get a repro marquee or if a miricle happens then an original (I don't think its an original on my cab and it's completly knackerd anyway).

This will be tricky - the original has black borders around the mini marquees and a nice SNK printed logo.

10. Not a job but I only have 2x 100 Yen coins so I would like to buy some more.

Just gave all of mine to the bank, but I might be able to help you out.. PM me.

One final thing who else has one of these cabs or have owned one in the past.

I had two, still have one. Rossyra obviously had one, and Pang has an SC25.

Enjoy!

Thank you for the advice mate it's appreciated, I'll drop you a pm re: the 100 Yen coins

[Paulie]

Farecla polish is very good.

Wonderbanana was the expert on polishes, in fact he enginereed the Farecla polish. Not seen him in a long time though

There are 2 screws holding the slide-lock in place, one should have a spring attached

Thanks mate

[Paulie]

A couple more bits to add to my to do list that I had forgot in my 1st post

11. Re-spray the base.

12. Change the Two slot mobo for a four slot.

I had some time this morning to work on the cab so I've been able to work on the marquee area.

1. I removed the marquee, this was quite tricky as it was stuck down with double sided tape and super glue and I was concerned about damaging the paint, thankfully it came off fine albeit very slowly.

Before


Removed front


Removed back YUK!


2. I removed the hood which is attached by 11, 6 point security screws to allow me access to the speakers and more space to work on the marquee part.

If you have never seen what they look like with the hood off then heres a picture.


3. I cleaned the black metal bit that houses the speakers and that the marquee sits against (sorry I don't know that actual name of the part ), this took quite some time because it was caked in old tape and super glue that didn't want to shift, I ended up using lighter fluid to soften the adhesive. When I had removed all the gunk I used T-Cut and Turtle triple wax and it's come up a treat, so I'm really happy with how it turned out. Now the hunt for a marquee I've already been told that finding and original may be very difficult (which I did suspect) so one that fits that will hold 4 mini marquees will probably be my best option. I will get in touch with Franco to see if he can make a reproduction for me.

Before


All polished up


Next job is cleaning the inside of the cab.

[johnnygnct]

Nice work man !

[skykappah]

Sweet. Hope you can get it close to factory condition.

[Paulie]

Nice work man !

Sweet. Hope you can get it close to factory condition.

Thanks for the encouragement chaps, I'll do my best to get it as minty as I possibly can do within my limited abilities


Had a go at the inside of the cab, it was pretty filthy but with a bit of elbow grease and it's come up a treat

Pretty grubby.





Almost there.


Clean as a whistle


Next job is to tackle the white metal exterior.

[emphatic]

Wonderful job so far!

[Paulie]

I've now prepared the cab ready for polishing the exterior (well almost, I just need to remove the CP base (I couldn't find a stubby in the garage otherwise I would have done that tonight) .

I have stripped off most of the control panel, there is a metal latch inside the cab which you push to the left to release the CP (thanks to nvs for the info on how to do this)

Sadly this revealed another problem with the cab the left hand side corner (as you look at it from the front) of the lower metal part of the control panel is split, that's why it was loose and didn't sit correctly. Also the plastic side support (on the same side) has a piece broken off (which is missing I was hoping it would be lurking inside the CP, oh well). I'll post a wanted list, do a bit of searching and ask around (I'll get touch with RKLOK to see if he has or can get spares or if he can remove them from another cab) before I start a repair on these bits.

Control panel in situ


Control panel when the top part has been removed


Split, which runs full length in the corner of the metal CP support


Broken plastic side support


Next job is to remove the lower CP and then T-cut and polish the white metal exterior.

Here's my shopping list for my SNK SC19-4 (I've already picked a couple of bits up) but I still need these. I know most of the things are a long shot but if you don't ask you don't get. I will post this in the Marketplace wanted section.

I have a couple of the bits on the list (marked *) which I should be able to repair but if I can find ones that are not broken then that would be amazing.

1 x black 6 point star security screw for the marquee holder (total length is approx 12 mm)

1 x wing nut screw for the wooden motherboard shelf

4 slot motherboard (I have a 2 slot that came with my cab which I can trade)

Original marquee holder

Control panel overlay (sticker or the punched metal panel with good condition art)

* Plastic side protector for the control panel (it's the left hand side one as you look at the cab from the front)

* Control panel base (the part that stays on the cab after the top panel with sticks & buttons is released)

[supergoose]

nice project. i have seen redstallone's cab in person and liked it a lot.

only thing is ... i would be tempted to replace the control panel box thing with a slightly enlarged repro So that a bigger panel with a proper layout could be used.

[Paulie]

nice project. i have seen redstallone's cab in person and liked it a lot.

only thing is ... i would be tempted to replace the control panel box thing with a slightly enlarged repro So that a bigger panel with a proper layout could be used.

Thanks,

Yes it would be great to make another 1P CP with the regular Neo button layout which I could interchange at will with the original. It may well be beyond my capabilities to fabricate a metal one from scratch due to the complexity of the bends and the punching/ drilling / cutting all of the various holes but it's certainly something for me to think about as a future project.

[Paulie]

Had a busy weekend with the cab

I've now removed the lower control panel and also completely dismantled the CP in preparation for rubbing down and re-spraying. I still have to look at the broken bottom part of the CP and the broken plastic side. I have ordered some buttons (Seimitsu PS-14-G 2x red, 2x yellow, 2x blue and 2x green) and new ball tops (Seimitsu LB-35 red & blue). On closer inspection I think the control Panel art is sadly beyond repair, so I need to get a reproduction printed. Can anyone recommend where I can get this done, what exactly I should be asking for and what you think it should cost? again any help would be amazing. (BTW I'm in the UK a just a few miles outside of Leeds, thought I would mention that just in case there is somewhere local to me)

CP when removed from the cab


Control panel when dismantled (you can see the part which has broken of the lower metal base)


The filthy mismatching buttons and sticks


I've cleaned the bezel which was filthy (you probably can't see the difference from the photographs but it's a vast improvement) I have ordered 3 more buttons for P1 BK/red, P2 BK/blue and select BK/yellow these are the smaller screw in type (Seimitsu PS-14DN).

Dirty bezel


All clean, the marks are where it's not perfectly dry the credit PCB is a bit discoloured but it is spotless


I've T-Cut & Turtle waxed the white metal shell which took about 4 hours. It's difficult to see the difference due to my bad photography but in the flesh the difference in the colour 'before' and 'after' is really quite staggering. Also almost every mark and scuff has either been removed of has been vastly improved. As you can see there is just one small area of the lower LHS of the cab that was scraped back to the bear metal and a line where the CP sits, again this was again scraped back to the bear metal. This part will not be visible as it is hidden by the CP. I assume this has been caused by the CP being loose and crap getting being it then when it has been used the CP has rubbed against the shell and all the crap has acted as an abrasive.

This is what it was like before cleaning


Unfortunately this is not the best picture but you can clearly see difference between the RHS which is cleaned and the LHS which is not is not


Front all shiny


LHS all shiny


RHS all shiny


Picked up a 4 slot motherboard for a decent price from Pang, Thanks mate.

Next jobs are to clean the hood and the security screws and washers, and deal with the side art.

[nvs]

Good progress, Paulie.

Would love to know what you end up doing with the hood (if anything) and the usual centre crack issue. Super common with these.

Regarding the art, I had it printed my Gameongrafix and was pleased with the result.

PS: Circular metal en route today.

[Paulie]

Good progress, Paulie.

Would love to know what you end up doing with the hood (if anything) and the usual centre crack issue. Super common with these.

Regarding the art, I had it printed my Gameongrafix and was pleased with the result.

PS: Circular metal en route today.

Thanks mate
TBH I havn't had chance to have a propper look at the hood yet so not sure what i'll be able to do. I'm going to polish it up with Novus, the round stickers are pretty minty so thats one less thing to do but regarding the little crack ??? they seem fairly fragile so the last thing I want to do is cause further damage. Maybe I can use hot air to manipulate the plastic, then glue and polish it out.

I check out Gameongrafix as I'm really struggling to find a printing place and that part of the job will prob slow things down quite a bit.

Thank you so much for sending me those little shiny round beauties but I hav'nt paid for them yet please let me know what the total with shipping that I owe you, and ill get the chash your way

Thanks again mate

[Paulie]

Only a small update for today

I cleaned the front of the bezel, I used some super market own brand car bumper and trim restorer and it's come up brilliantly, really, really shiny. I know it's only a 2 minute job but it's really lifted that area of the cab.

Before buffing


After buffing


I also replaced the P1, P2 and select buttons (Seimitsu PS-14DN from Gremlin Solutions) which arrived super fast I only ordered them at the weekend, I didn't expect these for some time as it was a special order so very happy with their service. I still need to buff up the perspex credit /P1 P2 strip with Novus (still need to get some ordered) and clean or replace the 2 little chrome security bolts that hold the credit PCB in place.

Old fag burnt button


Brand new Seimitsu PS-14DN buttons

[retrojc]

Really wish I had one of these cabs

[Paulie]

Really wish I had one of these cabs

You never know mate, I know I'm very fortunate to finally own one

I thought exactly the same (for about the last 10 years) & TBH I've never seen one for sale before other than in the US and one in Europe but it looked to need more work than I thought I was capable of (although I'm sure many of these cabs have changed hands on forums and between collectors). I almost bagged a neo19 (the newer version) a little while ago over on JAMMA+ but the seller must have changed his mind or somthing so sadly the deal it didn't happen.