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KmanSweden · Post by **KmanSweden** » July 31st, 2012, 5:57 am

davewellington wrote:
Pete wrote:Is this AW cart a boot ?

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Just the label looks a bit crap, but it could be 1 of the last games no ?

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Original - rounded sticker corners, Sega printed on the PCB, double sided PCB, and i'm pretty sure they haven't bootlegged this game.

Also doesn't all the bootlegs have the same serials?

davewellington · Post by **davewellington** » July 31st, 2012, 6:06 am

KmanSweden wrote: Also doesn't all the bootlegs have the same serials?

All the bootlegs of the same game have the same serial

The serials are listed on the wiki for quick identification, along with other things to check (incase they one day swap up the serials).

Soniq · Post by **Soniq** » August 26th, 2012, 4:11 pm

I have a robokid board and it's the same as the ones above it's very well put together and to me it's nothing like any boot I've ever seen quality wise

PikkaKO · Post by **PikkaKO** » December 4th, 2012, 2:02 pm

Original TMNT: Turtles in Time... Or??

Post by **Rossyra** » December 4th, 2012, 2:42 pm

Original, although it looks suspiciously like it's on the carpet there, with no feet!

PikkaKO · Post by **PikkaKO** » December 5th, 2012, 1:21 pm

Don't worry, it's my Antistatic Carpet™

Edit: And thanks btw! Thanks also to mastercello back from July

Post by **ChuChuFlamingo** » December 17th, 2012, 11:23 am

It is an original, but it is a Korean special from when Japan stuff was banned from entering Korea in the 90's. They usually have lower build quality than Japan based built boards.

One key difference is Korean boards sound pots require a flat head screw driver. Japan boards you can just turn the pot with your fingers.

PikkaKO · Post by **PikkaKO** » December 17th, 2012, 12:34 pm

ChuChuFlamingo wrote:It is an original, but it is a Korean special from when Japan stuff was banned from entering Korea in the 90's. They usually have lower build quality than Japan based built boards.

One key difference is Korean boards sound pots require a flat head screw driver. Japan boards you can just turn the pot with your fingers.

Oh thanks for the extra info. I was wondering why the board has the Mitsubishi roms but I guess that explains it too.

Spawnone · Post by **Spawnone** » January 8th, 2013, 11:02 am

Unite2k wrote:Afternoon guys, I'm considering getting my hands on this R-Type board. While I was originally looking for a clean, unrepaired and original board - they don't pop up that often. What are your thoughts on this one? Is it an original or conversion? And is it normal to have so many eeproms replaced?
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I'm not sure but I think R-Type is the only M72 Irem game which originally has this small rom board, other M72 games have bigger rom boards.

Akuma · Post by **Akuma** » February 9th, 2013, 11:49 am

Good morning,

opened up the Strike Fighter and took a pic of the Naomi board - very cryptic - lika a conundrum. Anyone got an idea what the numbers might mean? Ultra rarez pre-production prototype or what is it? Who is "triangle"ION? Will take pics of the pcb when I have removed the cart.

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Post by **yosai** » February 9th, 2013, 2:36 pm

^ Did you buy that from stv?

Akuma · Post by **Akuma** » February 9th, 2013, 2:51 pm

No, it was sited. HOWEVER, the cockpit has Italian instructions on the left (where the thrust lever is), so it might have been to Italy at some point of its life. Why STV?

Post by **moshpit** » February 9th, 2013, 2:57 pm

you just missed all the STV drama here

Post by **andygeezer** » February 9th, 2013, 7:18 pm

Akuma wrote:No, it was sited. HOWEVER, the cockpit has Italian instructions on the left (where the thrust lever is), so it might have been to Italy at some point of its life. Why STV?

Ex tecnoplay stock.

Nothing exciting as it won't be a prototype. You can tell if its as the ROMs would be Intel flash opposed to mask roms

https://www.youtube.com/user/Fanaticcism · Post by **turntablism** » February 9th, 2013, 9:16 pm

Akuma wrote:Good morning,

opened up the Strike Fighter and took a pic of the Naomi board - very cryptic - lika a conundrum. Anyone got an idea what the numbers might mean? Ultra rarez pre-production prototype or what is it? Who is "triangle"ION? Will take pics of the pcb when I have removed the cart.

board.jpg

hi akuma, would you sell the sega strike fighter controlpanel ?

Akuma · Post by **Akuma** » February 9th, 2013, 9:36 pm

andygeezer wrote:
Akuma wrote:No, it was sited. HOWEVER, the cockpit has Italian instructions on the left (where the thrust lever is), so it might have been to Italy at some point of its life. Why STV?
Ex tecnoplay stock.

Nothing exciting as it won't be a prototype. You can tell if its as the ROMs would be Intel flash opposed to mask roms

Cheers Andy! Thanks for the info - that clarifies! The cart is indeed loaded with Intel chips. Gotta google what Tecnoplay exactly was / is / means since I am curious to learn about the cab's history (for example, the base has a label stating only a serial number and saying "manufactured in 1998" but as we all know, Sega Strike Fighter came out in 2000 (or was it 2001)? It has another label saying "Sega Strike Fighter STD" and manufactured in England but with no date.

turntablism wrote:
Akuma wrote:Good morning,

opened up the Strike Fighter and took a pic of the Naomi board - very cryptic - lika a conundrum. Anyone got an idea what the numbers might mean? Ultra rarez pre-production prototype or what is it? Who is "triangle"ION? Will take pics of the pcb when I have removed the cart.

board.jpg
hi akuma, would you sell the sega strike fighter controlpanel ?

Sorry, I am not planning to convert it to a driver but want to keep it original instead. If it is the Italian instructions on the left hand of the CP you're after, I am open for a trade if you have the English (or at least German) language version in a similarly good condition - just PM me then, okay?

DJ Long Cat · Post by **DJ Long Cat** » February 11th, 2013, 2:12 am

andygeezer wrote:
Akuma wrote:No, it was sited. HOWEVER, the cockpit has Italian instructions on the left (where the thrust lever is), so it might have been to Italy at some point of its life. Why STV?
Ex tecnoplay stock.

Nothing exciting as it won't be a prototype. You can tell if its as the ROMs would be Intel flash opposed to mask roms

Wait wait wait WHAT?

I got a Virtua Tennis 1 cart without any of the plastic stuff on the top and the roms are Intel flash. Does this mean this is a proto version? (To be honest, whenever I press the 3rd button the game freezes and the marquee was kinda weird).

Akuma · Post by **Akuma** » February 11th, 2013, 3:04 pm

DJ Long Cat wrote:
andygeezer wrote:
Akuma wrote:No, it was sited. HOWEVER, the cockpit has Italian instructions on the left (where the thrust lever is), so it might have been to Italy at some point of its life. Why STV?
Ex tecnoplay stock.

Nothing exciting as it won't be a prototype. You can tell if its as the ROMs would be Intel flash opposed to mask roms
Wait wait wait WHAT?

I got a Virtua Tennis 1 cart without any of the plastic stuff on the top and the roms are Intel flash. Does this mean this is a proto version? (To be honest, whenever I press the 3rd button the game freezes and the marquee was kinda weird).

From what I understood: This means it is a Tecnoplay version. Tecnoplay is an Italy based company which seems to have assembled some Sega cabs by themselves and also burned the roms on some Naomi carts. Is this correct, Andy?

DJ Long Cat · Post by **DJ Long Cat** » February 11th, 2013, 9:42 pm

Are you talking about Strike Fighter or Virtua Tennis?

Post by **andygeezer** » February 11th, 2013, 10:40 pm

Akuma wrote:
From what I understood: This means it is a Tecnoplay version. Tecnoplay is an Italy based company which seems to have assembled some Sega cabs by themselves and also burned the roms on some Naomi carts. Is this correct, Andy?

Tecnoplay where one of the places that got prototypes/pre-release versions for test locations.

Check the EPROM if its the same as retail cart then Intel flash ROMs will be programmed with final data.

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