Nanao MS9-29 (05A00675C1) horizontal collapse

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Nanao MS9-29 (05A00675C1) horizontal collapse

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Last of the three problematic chassis I have on the workbench.

First diagnosis: starts up with what looks to be a somewhat horizontal collapse
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Did a recap and reflowed some areas.
I've replaced the LA7853

Still it's in horizontal collapse.

Any ideas @grantspain @PrincessPrinPrin ?

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thats a strange fault, if you increase screen volts is the entire screen affected or only that small area?
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The whole screen gets brighter and retrace lines are visible all over the screen.
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hmmm, maybe a fault in video decoder circuit
i imagine you tried a different video signal?
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You mean like 24kHz?
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i mean a different game board
also have you tried adjusting h hold pot to see if that affects at all or h.position
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grantspain wrote: October 3rd, 2020, 1:48 pm i mean a different game board
also have you tried adjusting h hold pot to see if that affects at all or h.position
Ok have tried the monitor with another gameboard and without a gameboard. Still the same type of collapse.
I've done theses things as well:
Replaced the Mitsubishi M51387P but still no difference.
Tried with another known working remote control board, no difference.
Moved the width jumper from normal to wide, no difference.
Toggled the Horizontal Hold 15kHz, no difference

On the remote control board, when dialing in the horizontal position pot, the column moves horizontally.
When dialing the horizontal width pot, nothing happens.

Too bad that the MS9 schematics are of such poor quality :(
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Does pincushion adjustment work? Horizontal size limit (VR452)?
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Width / pincushion amp: 2SD1944 @ Q508 ???

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H-size IC: AN5551 @ U450
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Issue has been resolved thanks to Sonic323 over at arcade-projects!

He had a similar fault and found a broken trace on the chassis, and my chassis had also a broken track
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