[TUTO] Save or répair Deathsmiles 2 Arcade PC-PCB

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Re: [TUTO] Save or répair Deathsmiles 2 Arcade PC-PCB

Post by zak » January 17th, 2020, 11:01 am

UPDATE:

So it looks like you can't create 2 partitions on a CF card in later versions of Windows using a card reader.

The original CF card had 2 partitions:

Partition 1 = OS
Partition 2 = DATA

If you try to put the image onto a CF card using a card reader, then the second (data) partition does not get created.

Apparently you need what is known as a "fixed disk" CF card to do this. I imagine CAVE made their XPe image on much older OS Hardware.

A suitable alternative would be an IDE DOM (40 pins) 2GB+ - I bought a hyperdisk one, but it was a POS (don't buy those).

Looking into a good vertical IDE DOM at the moment. If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know.

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Re: [TUTO] Save or répair Deathsmiles 2 Arcade PC-PCB

Post by cools » January 17th, 2020, 11:15 am

Diskpart will make multiple partitions even in current versions of Windows.

You can buy IDE CF adapters, don't bother with DOM stuff its almost certainly your card reader or whatever software youre writing with causing the behaviour.

Id be tempted to go USB to IDE and IDE to CF (CF is ATA, the latter is literally just providing an interface between the pin sizes)
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Re: [TUTO] Save or répair Deathsmiles 2 Arcade PC-PCB

Post by zak » January 17th, 2020, 11:22 am

cools wrote:
January 17th, 2020, 11:15 am
Diskpart will make multiple partitions even in current versions of Windows.
This doesn't seem to work with CF cards. Have you had success with creating 2 active partitions on a CF card?
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Id be tempted to go USB to IDE and IDE to CF (CF is ATA, the latter is literally just providing an interface between the pin sizes)
Already have the IDE to CF adapter. It will load the OS off the CF card, but the DATA partition is not recognised (so the game does not launch).

Standard IDE Hard disk worked fine (both partitions created). Reason I suggested a DOM.

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Re: [TUTO] Save or répair Deathsmiles 2 Arcade PC-PCB

Post by cools » January 17th, 2020, 11:32 am

Yes :D Active primary partition, extended partition containing secondary partitions.

I reckon your adapter isn't doing a proper job - see https://www.delkin.com/blog/technical-g ... -sd-cards/, maybe try soldering a ground between pin 9 and and 50? The adapters can vary, I've had that problem in the past.
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Re: [TUTO] Save or répair Deathsmiles 2 Arcade PC-PCB

Post by zak » January 17th, 2020, 11:40 am

Thanks @cools. I'm using this:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06 ... UTF8&psc=1

Is there another one you recommend?

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Re: [TUTO] Save or répair Deathsmiles 2 Arcade PC-PCB

Post by cools » January 17th, 2020, 11:45 am

That's not a CF to IDE, it's a card reader.

You need something like this:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Syba-SD-CF-IDE ... B000YUMLPI

Plus an IDE to USB something or other, old HDD caddy or similar might do or you're buying new https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=ide+usb&i= ... _sb_noss_1
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Re: [TUTO] Save or répair Deathsmiles 2 Arcade PC-PCB

Post by zak » January 17th, 2020, 12:27 pm

cools wrote:
January 17th, 2020, 11:45 am
That's not a CF to IDE, it's a card reader.
I know :D That's how I'm connecting it to my PC to flash the OS/DATA image
cools wrote:
January 17th, 2020, 11:45 am
You need something like this:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Syba-SD-CF-IDE ... B000YUMLPI
And that's how I'm connecting the "flashed" CF card to the motherboard.
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January 17th, 2020, 11:45 am
That's not a CF to IDE, it's a card reader.

Plus an IDE to USB something or other, old HDD caddy or similar might do or you're buying new https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=ide+usb&i= ... _sb_noss_1
And I used this to flash the IDE drive (which worked):

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01 ... UTF8&psc=1

I also tried connecting the CF card to the CF/IDE adapter to the above device to flash the OS/DATA image, but it doesn't want to create the second DATA partition on the CF card.

Basically anything I try on the CF card will fail to make the second DATA partition.

Standard IDE and SATA drives work, but not CF cards. I hope that makes sense.

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Post by cools » January 17th, 2020, 12:30 pm

What are you using to flash the image?

99% sure you'll only have success with the CF IDE and not the card reader.
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Re: [TUTO] Save or répair Deathsmiles 2 Arcade PC-PCB

Post by zak » January 17th, 2020, 12:33 pm

cools wrote:
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What are you using to flash the image?

99% sure you'll only have success with the CF IDE and not the card reader.
I've tried self image, BalenaEtcher and AOMEI to flash the image.

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Post by cools » January 17th, 2020, 12:38 pm

Try dd.
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Re: [TUTO] Save or répair Deathsmiles 2 Arcade PC-PCB

Post by nem » January 17th, 2020, 1:46 pm

Windows 10 had an update sometime back that broke imaging CF cards for me. I'm pretty sure someone else had that problem too. Weird, but true.

This is why I have a dedicated Windows XP PC :lol:

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Re: [TUTO] Save or répair Deathsmiles 2 Arcade PC-PCB

Post by zak » January 17th, 2020, 1:58 pm

nem wrote:
January 17th, 2020, 1:46 MP
Windows 10 had an update sometime back that broke imaging CF cards for me. I'm pretty sure someone else had that problem too. Weird, but true.

This is why I have a dedicated Windows XP PC :lol:
I'm on Windows 7, but it's nice to know I'm not going nuts :D

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