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Sega RingEdge Software Backup

Post by lacanian » October 6th, 2015, 10:28 am

I've just received some RingEdge DVD's unfortunately without the keychips and I also don't own a system.

I decided to backup the DVD's. Are all the DVD images the same? I just used dd to obtain them.

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9e0afab1c261670a79eb3377a1c50de2 world_club_champion_football_intercontinental_clubs_2010-2011.bin

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Re: Sega RingEdge Software Backup

Post by andygeezer » October 6th, 2015, 11:33 am

Waste of time, Ring series DVD are authenticated, and have a security sector.

Copied DVDs will not work at all, also most off the shelf DVD drives struggle to read original security sector.

Border Break - is an ALL.Net p-Ras game, and requires a custom keychip
WCCF requires some much extra hardware that it's beyond a joke.

99% of the time, Ring PCBs sold in Japan will have no keychips - it's part of the agreement operators have with Sega, that all keychips are returned.
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Re: Sega RingEdge Software Backup

Post by lacanian » October 6th, 2015, 12:08 pm

Thanks for letting me know.

I have a habit of backing up all optical media but I won't worry in the case of RingEdge then.

Yeah I seen the cards/hardware for WCCF. Looks like fun but something I'll never play.

Are they keychips for each game, or can you buy a ringedge unit that has a keychip included?

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Post by andygeezer » October 6th, 2015, 1:11 pm

Each game has it's own keychip and in most cases Japan region have different keychip for the same game.

The keychip now has a region bitmask, Japan is generally on it's own, then you have Export/USA/China on the other keychip .

There is also orange keychips which are rental ones.

WCCF has a custom camera for reading the cards - bit like the brick/block people camera setup - over engineering by Sega Japan as per norm.
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Post by Niko » October 6th, 2015, 4:44 pm

So if all keychips are suppose to be returned to sega. Then the chance of a game + keychip popping up on ebay or YAJ is pretty minimal then right?

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Post by andygeezer » October 6th, 2015, 5:41 pm

Well slimmer finding them, there where loads of mj5 sold with key chips a few years back.

I got a few nos virtua tennis 4 disc and chips from Sega, should update and add a ringedge section but don't think there is demand.
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Re: Sega RingEdge Software Backup

Post by purplec » October 6th, 2015, 8:02 pm

I'd be interested in a key chip and disc andy

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Post by andygeezer » October 6th, 2015, 9:50 pm

purplec wrote:I'd be interested in a key chip and disc andy
Problem is my vt4 soft kits are export/usa/china. Most people have japan region.

So costs a bit just to send mobo for region change.
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Re: Sega RingEdge Software Backup

Post by purplec » October 11th, 2015, 10:39 am

Ah right

So it's a bigger deal to change region on a ringedge unlike the chihiro.

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Post by jimmerd » October 16th, 2015, 9:58 pm

Played Triangle Service's Pengo on ALL-Net download and really enjoyed it and so subsequently found a NOS "Game Center Love With Pengo!" kit for RingEdge2 - without the dongle. I know the game has been released on the XBOX but it's not quite the same

Is there a legit supplier still selling these ringedge/wide kits with key or do you have to be an operator with an agreement with Sega?

I'd certinally be interested in a RingEdge section Andy! :awe:

On another topic, star horse 3 is another Ring Edge game which is kind of cool when you see it in action :shifty:
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Post by andygeezer » October 17th, 2015, 7:26 am

jimmerd wrote:Played Triangle Service's Pengo on ALL-Net download and really enjoyed it and so subsequently found a NOS "Game Center Love With Pengo!" kit for RingEdge2 - without the dongle. I know the game has been released on the XBOX but it's not quite the same

Is there a legit supplier still selling these ringedge/wide kits with key or do you have to be an operator with an agreement with Sega?

I'd certinally be interested in a RingEdge section Andy! :awe:

On another topic, star horse 3 is another Ring Edge game which is kind of cool when you see it in action :shifty:

That game is Japan only and requires the all.net rental keychip and valid subscription to sega.

Future of Japan games is rental only, even in the uk latest namco.require network to Bandai Namco server.
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Re: Sega RingEdge Software Backup

Post by jimmerd » October 17th, 2015, 1:13 pm

andygeezer wrote:
jimmerd wrote:Played Triangle Service's Pengo on ALL-Net download and really enjoyed it and so subsequently found a NOS "Game Center Love With Pengo!" kit for RingEdge2 - without the dongle. I know the game has been released on the XBOX but it's not quite the same

Is there a legit supplier still selling these ringedge/wide kits with key or do you have to be an operator with an agreement with Sega?

I'd certinally be interested in a RingEdge section Andy! :awe:

On another topic, star horse 3 is another Ring Edge game which is kind of cool when you see it in action :shifty:

That game is Japan only and requires the all.net rental keychip and valid subscription to sega.

Future of Japan games is rental only, even in the uk latest namco.require network to Bandai Namco server.
Thanks for confirming that information, so it looks like we will increasingly be holding out for official PC releases,
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I think the market is limited but I'd happily buy a 'home' arcade system and pay per credit if it allowed access to the latest releases.
Incredible technologies have taken a bit of lead by suppling a "home version" cabinet and subscription to Golden Tee.
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Re: Sega RingEdge Software Backup

Post by Asayuki » October 17th, 2015, 2:01 pm

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Can that be still considered arcade gaming? No more custom hardware, no more coins, no more standalone experience... What does one need a cabinet for then? An high tech console with a massive DLP projector and sound amplifier would create a better experience then, no?
Ahh sorry, didn't mean to hijack or troll the thread.
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Post by jimmerd » October 17th, 2015, 3:55 pm

Asayuki wrote:<rant>
Can that be still considered arcade gaming? No more custom hardware, no more coins, no more standalone experience... What does one need a cabinet for then? An high tech console with a massive DLP projector and sound amplifier would create a better experience then, no?
Ahh sorry, didn't mean to hijack or troll the thread.
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I think it would be cool to be able to play some of the traditional fighting and shooting games currently on ALL-net or Nescia.net at home.

Let's not forget the Neo Geo AES or Dreamcast followed this model, the games could be made available after they have been out in the arcades for some time.

I'm not suggesting a replacement for arcades, they are as you say a unique experience. :thumbupright:

I just think Incredible technologies were quite brave in seeing a market for enthusiasts who wanted a Golden Tee machine at home.

It looks like Steam is becoming a release point for a number of independent Japanese developers which is good news
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