Pony MkII 18'' refurbish (seems to be done!!)
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Pony MkII 18'' refurbish (seems to be done!!)
I recently acquired a cute Pony MkII 18'' from a guy who has a place in Zurich with a multitude of pinballs and fair machines of all kinds. He had been handling two Pony 18'' for almost twenty years. He had bought them for a pittance from an owner who handled them since the late 80's:
http://www.outlane.ch
The cab was quite infested by rust and painting was detached in many places, its edges was really afflicted:
Since the incessant vision of the holes overwhelming the flanks (the former owner of this cab had the wonderful idea to fix ashtrays...), I took the decision to dismount and repaint it:
We opted for a german high-end varnish, long-lasting and resistant. The outside is varnished and the inside fogged:
http://www.glurcar.ch/
To be continued...
http://www.outlane.ch
The cab was quite infested by rust and painting was detached in many places, its edges was really afflicted:
Since the incessant vision of the holes overwhelming the flanks (the former owner of this cab had the wonderful idea to fix ashtrays...), I took the decision to dismount and repaint it:
We opted for a german high-end varnish, long-lasting and resistant. The outside is varnished and the inside fogged:
http://www.glurcar.ch/
To be continued...
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Re: Pony 18 restauration
Thing of beauty. There are 2x for sale here in the UK currently.. for too much money.
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Re: Pony 18 restauration
Where?Flinnster wrote: Thing of beauty. There are 2x for sale here in the UK currently.. for too much money.
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Re: Pony 18 restauration
is that the pony that was on ebay ? for 2.5k or something like that ?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaleco-Pony- ... 0011.m1850
not 18's
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaleco-Pony- ... 0011.m1850
not 18's
<trk>:I remember catching a big fat one and my friend said "throw it back in, that one already tastes like wood"
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Re: Pony 18 restauration
-snip- (link already posted ^^ )
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Ah those be the ones, I remembered incorrectly...
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Re: Pony 18 restauration
Phew, not interested in the 28"s
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Re: Pony 18 restauration
Sorry ......
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As basis, the coin-mech had no references. While searching at Ivos place (the guy from Outlane) I found in his stock of scrap and spare parts a loose Asahi Seiko AD-86E licensed in swiss francs, partialy made of plastic, equiped with a back system, an auxiliary appendix and a case (also Asahi Seiko), whose utility I do not know. A ''West Germany'' warranty seal (that I unfortunately lost) led me to believe this cab, before landing at Ivo certainly transited in West Germany. Considering the date of manufacture of the Pony this is not an anachronistic hypothesis:
Ivos stock of scrap and spare parts:
Btw, I bought brand new Asahi AD-81P coin-mech with an Omron micro sw:
The ground zone contains the following elements:
>Sharp AA-110 AC 90-132V: that I replaced by a Meanwell SWN-7F powered by Sanwa:
https://www.tops-game.jp/products/detai ... ct_id=2609
>Toyoden AD21-200A 200VA transformer: in perfect condition, compact and much less imposing than conventional double coil processors. Its presence allows me to presume that this cab seemed to be destined to export... (also, to avoid the noise due to vibrations, I added some silicone joints)
http://www.toyozumi.co.jp/products/ad21 ... -200A2.pdf
>TDK ZCB2203-M 250V 3A noise filter:
>NEC FL15 X1 100V 0.3A 19W ballast:
>EST MF526 10AAC 250V fuse holder: that I replaced by a Sato Parts F-4000 250V 10A:
At basis, each connectors were AMP Mate-N-Lock, but I replaced them by some AMP UP series, which are much convenients:
Ivos stock of scrap and spare parts:
Btw, I bought brand new Asahi AD-81P coin-mech with an Omron micro sw:
The ground zone contains the following elements:
>Sharp AA-110 AC 90-132V: that I replaced by a Meanwell SWN-7F powered by Sanwa:
https://www.tops-game.jp/products/detai ... ct_id=2609
>Toyoden AD21-200A 200VA transformer: in perfect condition, compact and much less imposing than conventional double coil processors. Its presence allows me to presume that this cab seemed to be destined to export... (also, to avoid the noise due to vibrations, I added some silicone joints)
http://www.toyozumi.co.jp/products/ad21 ... -200A2.pdf
>TDK ZCB2203-M 250V 3A noise filter:
>NEC FL15 X1 100V 0.3A 19W ballast:
>EST MF526 10AAC 250V fuse holder: that I replaced by a Sato Parts F-4000 250V 10A:
At basis, each connectors were AMP Mate-N-Lock, but I replaced them by some AMP UP series, which are much convenients:
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Re: Pony 18 complete restauration
Great thread!!
Hope to see some video footage if you don't mind doing that too!
Hope to see some video footage if you don't mind doing that too!
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Re: Pony 18 complete restauration
Yep, LCD on the right.
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Re: Pony 18 complete restauration
EXA compatible
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Yes, one of them had an LCD. By chance I picked up the one on the left with the Mitsubishi monitor.
Zak: What's EXA?
On the back side, some parts also needed to be changed:
>Echo AC-1G 36mm 110V plug: according to me, this plug was originally used to link sevral cabs, since there is already an opening for passing the power cable. The part originally indicated ''EDK Japan'' but this company is also called ''Echo Electric''. I succeeded to order them from Otohori Corp, unfortunately, 100pces was the min. order qty:
http://www.edk.co.jp/product/pdf/AC-1.pdf
>Sato Parts BU-3270 bushing: which allows to secure the main plug in order to avoid a vacuum around. It seems that the old model has been relieved of its tail since the new has one. It's an essential extension that allows to introduce the wire into the bushing safety. I had to use gloves to squeeze the busing proper into the wire and push it inside the hole, but once this done the bushing is safe and hardly immovable. I also replaced the main outled by a beautiful catch covered with a gray/purplish fabric sheath: http://www.satoparts.co.jp/JPN/item/BL/BU-3270/
>Shinden SDW-206K-08 ON-OFF rocker-switch:
http://www.shinden.com/RocerSwitches/w-210k-08.htm
Shinden ask about three weeks since they do all items by hand. They have many choice of colours: I like the red one:
Contacts & housings for those switches are available there:
https://www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=170203-2
https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/ ... ND/2284637
I also replaced the formers cable-clamps by some NIX INC UL-18 sold by Sanwa, and all wires by some 18 & 22awg Fujikura UL1007:
https://densenkan.com/item/?s_sub_category=6
Zak: What's EXA?
On the back side, some parts also needed to be changed:
>Echo AC-1G 36mm 110V plug: according to me, this plug was originally used to link sevral cabs, since there is already an opening for passing the power cable. The part originally indicated ''EDK Japan'' but this company is also called ''Echo Electric''. I succeeded to order them from Otohori Corp, unfortunately, 100pces was the min. order qty:
http://www.edk.co.jp/product/pdf/AC-1.pdf
>Sato Parts BU-3270 bushing: which allows to secure the main plug in order to avoid a vacuum around. It seems that the old model has been relieved of its tail since the new has one. It's an essential extension that allows to introduce the wire into the bushing safety. I had to use gloves to squeeze the busing proper into the wire and push it inside the hole, but once this done the bushing is safe and hardly immovable. I also replaced the main outled by a beautiful catch covered with a gray/purplish fabric sheath: http://www.satoparts.co.jp/JPN/item/BL/BU-3270/
>Shinden SDW-206K-08 ON-OFF rocker-switch:
http://www.shinden.com/RocerSwitches/w-210k-08.htm
Shinden ask about three weeks since they do all items by hand. They have many choice of colours: I like the red one:
Contacts & housings for those switches are available there:
https://www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=170203-2
https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/ ... ND/2284637
I also replaced the formers cable-clamps by some NIX INC UL-18 sold by Sanwa, and all wires by some 18 & 22awg Fujikura UL1007:
https://densenkan.com/item/?s_sub_category=6
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Re: Pony 18 complete restauration
Yeah, but i was refering more to the fact that this picture was taken by me (as you can see at the lower right corner).cools wrote:Yep, LCD on the right.
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https://forum.arcadeotaku.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=37248erzane wrote:Thanks guys
Zak: What's EXA?
Great restoration btw!
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The PCB side plate was also subject to be changed. I went to make dimensions corresponds and added some openings. I used scraps to reproduce the feets:
I arranged all elements of the ground on an MDF wood taken from an New Net City. A simple resizing was sufficient since thickness already corresponded: https://buyanypart.co.uk/parts/pcb-base ... t-city-cab
Btw, the board is now slightly sidelined, leaving more space in the entrance (offset to the side)
About the locks: some First LK-33-A and regarding to the cash box: a beautiful Alpha ZL-1:
I arranged all elements of the ground on an MDF wood taken from an New Net City. A simple resizing was sufficient since thickness already corresponded: https://buyanypart.co.uk/parts/pcb-base ... t-city-cab
Btw, the board is now slightly sidelined, leaving more space in the entrance (offset to the side)
About the locks: some First LK-33-A and regarding to the cash box: a beautiful Alpha ZL-1:
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Thanks for sharing the flyer pics It confirms 4:3 support for atb!
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Welcome Zaki
There were some adhesive foam strips wearing the border of the panel and each lateral rails on which comes the glass which covers the monitor, they are available in several sizes: 1mm thickness was proper to set the panel correctly on the glass without leaving any gap: http://asukaze-shop.com/shopdetail/007001000001/
An adhesive film was also added to avoid wear left by wrist rubbing, replacing it was though because small hairs and dust always came into it, so I needed to use a vacuum. Finaly, after a dozen of try I succeeded to set it properly. Size is 9,2mm large by 491mm long, but I made it 1mm shorter because this film was quite extendable:
I also found some 8mm red Nikkai AT406A silicone caps to prevent the open/close usure of the varnish:
Initialy, the control bd handles service and vol. control but I wanted to complete it so I achieved a new version (I was lucky to find another control bd at Ivos place which allowed me to save the other one). I now have extra test (red/black), a smaller vol. control a toggle sw (which will serve to remote the image resolution via a jumper based on the chassis), and a new 10P edge connector:
>KEL 3250 series 10P 3,96mm pitch edge connector to replace the initial Hirose:
https://www.kel.jp/english/product/prod ... ail/id=396
>250V-3A On/On Nikkai M2012SS1W01 toggle switch:
https://www.nkkswitches.co.jp/product/toggle.html
>Shinden SDP-103C-10 push buttons - exactly the same that initialy fitted the control bd:
http://www.shinden.com/pushbuttonswitch ... bs0000.htm
>500ohm/1,3W RA25Y20S Tocos vol. pot. and its K-8075-6.1 Sato caps, also available on the enekoshop webshop:
The pot was originaly a Violet Electric 500ohm/1,5W RA28Y25S (I guess now Tocos aka Tokyo Cosmo). The new one have a 20mm stem (instead 25mm) and a 25mm body (instead 28mm)
http://www.satoparts.co.jp/JPN/item/K/K-8075-6.1/
http://www1.enekoshop.jp/shop/tocos-net ... m_id=62171
Since the pot is wearing a panel lock, the 3pins were directed in a way that exceeds the edge of the board, that's why I filled the initial hole and deported it to 1/4 in order to direct the pins upwards:
There were some adhesive foam strips wearing the border of the panel and each lateral rails on which comes the glass which covers the monitor, they are available in several sizes: 1mm thickness was proper to set the panel correctly on the glass without leaving any gap: http://asukaze-shop.com/shopdetail/007001000001/
An adhesive film was also added to avoid wear left by wrist rubbing, replacing it was though because small hairs and dust always came into it, so I needed to use a vacuum. Finaly, after a dozen of try I succeeded to set it properly. Size is 9,2mm large by 491mm long, but I made it 1mm shorter because this film was quite extendable:
I also found some 8mm red Nikkai AT406A silicone caps to prevent the open/close usure of the varnish:
Initialy, the control bd handles service and vol. control but I wanted to complete it so I achieved a new version (I was lucky to find another control bd at Ivos place which allowed me to save the other one). I now have extra test (red/black), a smaller vol. control a toggle sw (which will serve to remote the image resolution via a jumper based on the chassis), and a new 10P edge connector:
>KEL 3250 series 10P 3,96mm pitch edge connector to replace the initial Hirose:
https://www.kel.jp/english/product/prod ... ail/id=396
>250V-3A On/On Nikkai M2012SS1W01 toggle switch:
https://www.nkkswitches.co.jp/product/toggle.html
>Shinden SDP-103C-10 push buttons - exactly the same that initialy fitted the control bd:
http://www.shinden.com/pushbuttonswitch ... bs0000.htm
>500ohm/1,3W RA25Y20S Tocos vol. pot. and its K-8075-6.1 Sato caps, also available on the enekoshop webshop:
The pot was originaly a Violet Electric 500ohm/1,5W RA28Y25S (I guess now Tocos aka Tokyo Cosmo). The new one have a 20mm stem (instead 25mm) and a 25mm body (instead 28mm)
http://www.satoparts.co.jp/JPN/item/K/K-8075-6.1/
http://www1.enekoshop.jp/shop/tocos-net ... m_id=62171
Since the pot is wearing a panel lock, the 3pins were directed in a way that exceeds the edge of the board, that's why I filled the initial hole and deported it to 1/4 in order to direct the pins upwards:
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Beautiful cab! I've read that some people say that its very comfy for prolonged playing sessions?
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