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Re: Taito Canary playing blind

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OK So I've pulled it, yoke wires seem connected OK, I've tested the continuity from the yoke to the RGB chassis connector, fine.

mikejmoffitt wrote: January 5th, 2021, 10:24 pm Without deflection you might expect a hole to be burned within seconds.

Use an ohmeter and check that you get some resistance on both windings of the deflection yoke (with it powered off, disconnected from the chassis). This way you can check that your yoke is not somehow an open circuit.
Will try this next, need to work out exactly what I need to do first :oops:

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Hiya,

You would want to put the meter in ohms/resistance mode and measure for resistance between what looks like the red and yellow wires, and the blue and green wires.

If it's not open circuit you should see a different resistance on each pair, if it is open circuit the meter will display 0 or 1 to denote infinity. (depend on your meter).

Happy to be corrected if wrong! :shifty:
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G Y 0.10 ~ 0.13

R B 0.02
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That resistance seems low to me (but to be honest I don't know what it should be)

Going by the wiki here I may have got the cable colours wrong.

https://wiki.arcadeotaku.com/w/Monitor_ ... asurements

Also I think arcade projects have a post somewhere about what they should be per tube, I'll try and dig it up in the AM.
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what range was your meter set to?
I would expect to see about 2 ohms horizontal and 10 ohms vertical
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grantspain wrote: January 25th, 2022, 7:42 am what range was your meter set to?
I would expect to see about 2 ohms horizontal and 10 ohms vertical
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I'd whack it on the 20 ohms setting and test again, maybe try the different colour cable combinations as well as per wiki.

At least it looks like the meter shows 1 now when it's vexxed 😊
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ravepants wrote: January 26th, 2022, 5:59 pm I'd whack it on the 20 ohms setting and test again

Meter shows kilo ohms. I don't think it will give any accurate reading for anything that measures in under 10 ohms.
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Good spot @nem

@matt5cott Wanna borrow my meter?
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most likely expanation is either the yoke is not plugged in correctly or on correct5 pins or the flyback is bad
to lose both vertical and horizontal deflection is quite an odd fault
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Thanks for all the help so far everyone.

Had a look at this with fresh eyes this evening, I tried testing connections and wiggling sockets... Saw some odd movement on one of the little side boards, pushed it away from the board and the joints are shagged,

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3 wires connect here, and what are those 3 wires you ask?

Horizontal
Vertical
Ground

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I'll re-solder this later in the week, fingers crossed this is it, because it's been quite the bloody saga :lol:
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ah mate, that'd be pukka if that's the problem!

rooting for ya for a simple fix :) and if the pads have lifted, we can rebuild it, we have the technology :D
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/me sets reminder :awe: :lol: looks like a good candidate for an issue anyway ! 8-)
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Repaired and continuity tested, installed the part back in, still dead.


Crestfallen and frankly have had enough of this now :palm:
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:( That sucks mate.

Is it maybe one Grant could have a look at?
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grantspain wrote: January 27th, 2022, 2:42 pm most likely expanation is either the yoke is not plugged in correctly or on correct5 pins or the flyback is bad
to lose both vertical and horizontal deflection is quite an odd fault
OK thanks, I'll re-look at the yoke / test if the flyback is duff.

I hear nothing at all from the CRT, usually you can hear them fire up, just dead.



Edit, will also check HOT.


Edit 2 - HOT ok, chat tonight yielded good suggestion, will pull chassis/tube and run direct from a stepdown outside of the cab.
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matt5cott wrote: April 13th, 2022, 6:49 pm will pull chassis/tube and run direct from a stepdown outside of the cab.
What's the best way to do this? Gonna give it a shot with ravepants on Wednesday :thumbup:

Just working out what I'll need to have ready 8-) 8-)
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OK ravepants checked and made some adjustments to the wiring 8-) (Thanks again 8-) )

Another step forward tonight hopefully, the quite loud buzz is coming from the transformer CVT-003M as circled below, does this shed any light on the next step :penser:

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matt5cott wrote: August 24th, 2022, 10:03 pm OK ravepants checked and made some adjustments to the wiring 8-) (Thanks again 8-) )

Another step forward tonight hopefully, the quite loud buzz is coming from the transformer CVT-003M as circled below, does this shed any light on the next step :penser:

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Looks like it to me
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