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Re: Sanwa 29e31s-b No Picture-total black

Posted: January 13th, 2020, 2:22 pm
by grantspain
zak wrote: January 13th, 2020, 2:01 pm
grantspain wrote: January 13th, 2020, 1:43 pm
zak wrote: January 13th, 2020, 1:12 pm Are these the same flybacks used on a MS2931/MS2933?
no but the same seller does stock them
Excellent! Thanks Grant.
yeah it would be interesting to see if his ms2931 flybacks have the same width issue as the others being sold

Re: Sanwa 29e31s-b No Picture-total black

Posted: January 13th, 2020, 3:56 pm
by nem
I don't believe for a second Tecknoservices have had these made. When the MS2930 flybacks first appeared, they just bought the whole stock of available units and were selling them for 3x the cost.

More than likely the 29e31s ones can be found on Taobao if you know where to look.

Good to know there's an option for the HR Diemen though.

Re: Sanwa 29e31s-b No Picture-total black

Posted: January 13th, 2020, 9:07 pm
by Pa0l0ne
Sorry to know about that, i'm a simple hobbyst and i'm totally blind about this drama. But you know, all things have a price, onestly i have fast received my new flyback and i don't really know if it is overpriced or not, my only concern is about the quality and the post buy technical support: nothing negative to say about that, i'm totally satisfied but happy to know there are other cheap alternative for other people who have the same out of order as mine... 😁
Happy hobby to all!

Re: Sanwa 29e31s-b No Picture-total black

Posted: January 13th, 2020, 9:46 pm
by grantspain
yeah if it works then thats all you need 8-)

Re: Sanwa 29e31s-b No Picture-total black

Posted: January 16th, 2020, 9:14 pm
by Pa0l0ne
Unfortunately the story seems not totally endend, cause now i have some trouble with calibration...
The screen seems to had much red and the white is not so white... I have tried to work with all the pots but with no satisfied results...
The other problem is that with an xbox360 with a vga cable correctly configured @640x480 i have sync problem and the colors are totally messed up....
I really don't know if i have now chassis problem or tube problem... Maybe the sum of all things... 🤔
Any help is appreciated...

Re: Sanwa 29e31s-b No Picture-total black

Posted: January 16th, 2020, 9:37 pm
by grantspain
you adjusted the cut off and gain pots on the neck card?

Re: Sanwa 29e31s-b No Picture-total black

Posted: January 17th, 2020, 1:33 pm
by nem
Could be the tube. The Shanghai Novel tubes are trash tier. I have two out of six that either have failing or failed electron guns.

Re: Sanwa 29e31s-b No Picture-total black

Posted: January 18th, 2020, 11:31 am
by Pa0l0ne
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Mumble, mumble..... So, i have messed up again with the monitor today morning. The strange thing is that the R-BLK doesn't make any difference when i try to set it clockwise or anticlockwise. As you can see, my screen seems to have too much red indeed.... Maybe i have fault R-BLK pot or relative transistor on the neckbord?
How to test it?

Re: Sanwa 29e31s-b No Picture-total black

Posted: January 18th, 2020, 12:20 pm
by grantspain
pot could be broken, you can read on ohms with a meter- centre leg to one probe and a probe to either of the other pins
it could be tube but colours look too vibrant to be a tube issue

Re: Sanwa 29e31s-b No Picture-total black

Posted: January 18th, 2020, 1:07 pm
by Pa0l0ne
Thank you grantspain, in the afternoon i will keep some measurements

Re: Sanwa 29e31s-b No Picture-total black

Posted: January 18th, 2020, 1:09 pm
by grantspain
with power off of course

Re: Sanwa 29e31s-b No Picture-total black

Posted: January 18th, 2020, 1:40 pm
by PrincessPrinPrin
Is that tool actually turning the trimmer? :lol: Judging by the pic I would say it's unsuitable.

Re: Sanwa 29e31s-b No Picture-total black

Posted: January 18th, 2020, 3:09 pm
by Pa0l0ne
:lol: :lol: i know.. The photo is not self explanatory... The tool at the end fit perfect on the pot and rotate itself
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Re: Sanwa 29e31s-b No Picture-total black

Posted: January 19th, 2020, 4:41 pm
by Pa0l0ne
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Ok, this is the best that i can do. The pots seems good at ohm measurement but the rgb spectrum as you can see is not totally good.... I think at in game is not so bad but maybe for totally good calibration i need a full recap on the neck board (?)

Re: Sanwa 29e31s-b No Picture-total black

Posted: January 20th, 2020, 9:58 am
by nem
That looks terrible. Both green gain and red cut off are too high.

Start with a cap kit. See if it helps.

Re: Sanwa 29e31s-b No Picture-total black

Posted: January 20th, 2020, 11:52 am
by Pa0l0ne
nem wrote: January 20th, 2020, 9:58 am That looks terrible. Both green gain and red cut off are too high.

Start with a cap kit. See if it helps.
Thanks for reply, i will sure make recap asap. Did you have experience about this kind of problem related to caps? I think that the chassis had 10/15/20 years of use so it's normal that caps are totally trash!

Re: Sanwa 29e31s-b No Picture-total black

Posted: January 22nd, 2020, 12:59 pm
by Pa0l0ne
Did anyone knows what is the ohm value of the pots on the entire chassis?

Re: Sanwa 29e31s-b No Picture-total black

Posted: January 22nd, 2020, 2:51 pm
by grantspain
do the gain pots on the remote work?

Re: Sanwa 29e31s-b No Picture-total black

Posted: April 15th, 2020, 11:43 pm
by psyko44
hi Pa0l0ne , did you found a solution to your problem of color?
i am looking for new flyback for 3 naomi and i am looking info in the flyback that tecknoservice is selling.
thanks :)

Re: Sanwa 29e31s-b No Picture-total black

Posted: April 17th, 2020, 11:55 pm
by Syn
Is there another place to buy the flyback from besides the eBay guy? I think that might be my issue?