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So I have a MS9 that had an unstable image so I decided to do a full recap. Ordered a capkit and changed every cap carefully noting the values and polarity of both the old and new cap.
Some of the new caps were higher voltage but as I understand that is ok. The Farad values were spot on.
When I powered it on there was only a clicking sound for a second or so and then the chassis turned off. Double and triplechecked all caps and even put the old back in but no success.

I isolated pin 2 of the flyback and put in a lightbulb as a dummy load and now the chassis stays on but B+ is 111volt at the lowest setting of the pot. I'm using 24KHz mode so I only adjust the 24 pot.

What could have gone wrong?
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put it onto 15k and then read b+ , should be about 74-76v adjustable
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grantspain wrote: November 19th, 2018, 8:09 am put it onto 15k and then read b+ , should be about 74-76v adjustable
When I put it in 15k mode b+ is 75v and I can adjust it down to 60v but when I take it off the dummy load and connect the flyback it skyrockets up to 130v and shut down. I dont think the flyback is faulty because I get static noise from the tube for a split second before it shuts down.
Does this make any sense? English is not my native language ;)
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check the HOT, there are tons of things that cause ms9 to shutdown- any fault picked up on deflection or psu and they shut down
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grantspain wrote: November 19th, 2018, 4:38 pm check the HOT, there are tons of things that cause ms9 to shutdown- any fault picked up on deflection or psu and they shut down
I assume this is the HOT to the left on the shield? I unsolder it tonight. How do I measure it?

BTW Thank you very much for taking the time to help me here Grant :D

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yes that is it, should read like a diode across 2 pins
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grantspain wrote: November 19th, 2018, 5:25 pm yes that is it, should read like a diode across 2 pins
When I measure in diode mode I get a reading when touching it like this:
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Any other way it read infinite. That should mean that the HOT is working, right?

Edit: I have also replaced the vertical ic (LA7837) and the power transistor or whatever it is called (K1531) for known working ones and still no change.
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no dead short means its ok
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grantspain wrote: November 19th, 2018, 9:27 pm no dead short means its ok
Crap, back to zero then :lol:

Could a broken solder pad lead to this issue? If I broke any while changing capacitors.
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yes i expect it is something that you have done, lump of solder across pads, broken pads- something like that
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grantspain wrote: November 19th, 2018, 10:20 pm yes i expect it is something that you have done, lump of solder across pads, broken pads- something like that
And sure enough it was.
I had placed the bipolar cap in a vacant location right next to where it was supposed to sit... Dumbass!

It was right in front of me the whole time and I could not see it. Lesson learned I suppose :shifty:
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good work finding the issue
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grantspain wrote: November 23rd, 2018, 7:05 am good work finding the issue
Thanks for taking the time helping me to narrow it down 8-)
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