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WTT Mystic Warriors

Posted: September 15th, 2019, 4:54 pm
by darkcrono
Hi i have a mystic Warriors board i am willing to trade (adding money if needed) for a dodonpachi (no matter region) or a mushi fbl another.

Thanks for reading!

Located in spain

Ebay: thegencoreproject

Re: WTT Mystic Warriors

Posted: September 15th, 2019, 5:39 pm
by SuperPang

Re: WTT Mystic Warriors

Posted: September 15th, 2019, 5:52 pm
by goemon59
Hello.
I'm interested that you sell it

Re: WTT Mystic Warriors

Posted: September 15th, 2019, 5:53 pm
by Grinning Cat
Is your Mystic Warriors Japanese region, by any chance?

Re: WTT Mystic Warriors

Posted: September 15th, 2019, 7:03 pm
by sirarthurahf
Grinning Cat wrote:
September 15th, 2019, 5:53 MP
Is your Mystic Warriors Japanese region, by any chance?
Any difference? :roll:

(Apart from the warning screen, If there is any)

Re: WTT Mystic Warriors

Posted: September 15th, 2019, 7:20 pm
by Grinning Cat
There are actually quite a few - but they don't really seem to be documented anywhere (that I could find, anyway).

Off the top of my head, rank options are a bit different, and bosses take a lot more shots to go down in non-Japanese versions.

The Asian version is also (inexplicably) missing the level 1 mid boss.

There possibly are more differences...I was trying to note all of them at one point. But got sidetracked :oops:

Re: WTT Mystic Warriors

Posted: September 15th, 2019, 7:32 pm
by Sunder
There's a level 1 midboss? You mean the Saw Van?
It's on the JP version too.

Re: WTT Mystic Warriors

Posted: September 15th, 2019, 7:38 pm
by Grinning Cat
Well, mid boss/miniboss is possibly stretching it. The buzzsaw vehicle, is what I mean.

I have the Asian version and it's definitely not there. It just scrolls past that section (same on the Asian ROM in Mame). Caught me off guard when I first fired up the PCB.

Re: WTT Mystic Warriors

Posted: September 15th, 2019, 7:46 pm
by Grinning Cat
You're right - buzzsaw is in all other versions (apart from Asian).

The Japanese version is the only version with the 'correct/balanced' rank, though, from my testing. Seems to be a bit of a running pattern of Konami turning games into quarter munchers for western releases ;)

Re: WTT Mystic Warriors

Posted: September 15th, 2019, 8:13 pm
by Sunder
Ah I didnt know there was a separate Asian version.
I'm glad you got a version at least. I was so mad when a lot of the graphics and effects are not present through MAME and emulation.
The ending didn't make much sense at all through MAME. I have the JP version and yeah it's definitely MUCH easier and manageable than the other versions I played. I think it's in my top 5 played game.

Re: WTT Mystic Warriors

Posted: September 15th, 2019, 8:17 pm
by sirarthurahf
Grinning Cat wrote:
September 15th, 2019, 7:20 MP
There are actually quite a few - but they don't really seem to be documented anywhere (that I could find, anyway).

Off the top of my head, rank options are a bit different, and bosses take a lot more shots to go down in non-Japanese versions.

The Asian version is also (inexplicably) missing the level 1 mid boss.

There possibly are more differences...I was trying to note all of them at one point. But got sidetracked :oops:
Have the Asian PCB (AA A) and the van is definitely there. Compared with the Replay Burners YT vid, the first boss it takes (more or less) the same amount of hits to go down...

Re: WTT Mystic Warriors

Posted: September 15th, 2019, 8:42 pm
by sirarthurahf
It’s a terrific game anyway, probably the best run n gun from the big K

The thing I hate the most is that, like in Sunset, you continue and you keep the score (without even a 1 at the end). The one who continue the most gets the better spot

Re: WTT Mystic Warriors

Posted: September 15th, 2019, 8:52 pm
by Grinning Cat
sirarthurahf wrote:
September 15th, 2019, 8:17 MP
Grinning Cat wrote:
September 15th, 2019, 7:20 MP
There are actually quite a few - but they don't really seem to be documented anywhere (that I could find, anyway).

Off the top of my head, rank options are a bit different, and bosses take a lot more shots to go down in non-Japanese versions.

The Asian version is also (inexplicably) missing the level 1 mid boss.

There possibly are more differences...I was trying to note all of them at one point. But got sidetracked :oops:
Have the Asian PCB (AA A) and the van is definitely there. Compared with the Replay Burners YT vid, the first boss it takes (more or less) the same amount of hits to go down...
My Asian version is AAB - in that version it's definitely missing (have just double-checked in Mame) :) Seemingly, that's the only version where it's not there.

The bosses honestly do seem to have longer lifebars in say EAA compared to JAA. It surprised me...but I have seen that aspect confirmed since by someone else over at Shmups. Interestingly, the rank options in the service menus (going off memory here :oops: ) are numbered slightly differently...but don't seem to alter boss lifebars.
sirarthurahf wrote:
September 15th, 2019, 8:42 MP
It’s a terrific game anyway, probably the best run n gun from the big K
I agree. It really is awesome (whichever version you have) :D

Re: WTT Mystic Warriors

Posted: September 15th, 2019, 9:44 pm
by Grinning Cat
Sunder wrote:
September 15th, 2019, 8:13 MP
Ah I didnt know there was a separate Asian version.
I'm glad you got a version at least. I was so mad when a lot of the graphics and effects are not present through MAME and emulation.
The ending didn't make much sense at all through MAME. I have the JP version and yeah it's definitely MUCH easier and manageable than the other versions I played. I think it's in my top 5 played game.
I remember you explaining about the ending being messed up in Mame - back around the time I was looking at getting a Japanese copy from you (I think via everyone's least favourite seller in Indonesia). I had always slightly wondered what was going on there until you explained it :lol:

Yeah, ultimately, I'm really happy just to own any version :) But it's quite a favourite of mine, too - so I guess I wouldn't be adverse to switching to a Japanese copy if one cropped up at a reasonable-ish price. Although I've ploughed quite a bit into my Asian copy by getting the hybrid swapped out for a Caius repro now :oops:

Re: WTT Mystic Warriors

Posted: September 16th, 2019, 2:53 am
by Chris
Whats wrong with the ending in MAME? Just curious.

Re: WTT Mystic Warriors

Posted: September 16th, 2019, 8:08 am
by Sunder
Chris wrote:
September 16th, 2019, 2:53 am
Whats wrong with the ending in MAME? Just curious.
The scenes fade in and out of flashbacks during the crying scene. Also the last boss's office is missing the Blade Runner-esque vignettes on the monitors in the background.

Re: WTT Mystic Warriors

Posted: September 16th, 2019, 8:10 am
by Sunder
Grinning Cat wrote:
September 15th, 2019, 9:44 MP
- back around the time I was looking at getting a Japanese copy from you (I think via everyone's least favourite seller in Indonesia).
Ah, man the pain. ;__; I was betrayed so hard.