Irem Madonna. Help
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Irem Madonna. Help
Today it's a very nice and sad day...
After some months trying to get a tiny candy cab in Spain finally I have gotten an Irem Madonna delivered this afternoon at home thanks to rklok. Cabinet it's cosmetically in very good condition, clean and tidy (End of nice day)
After lunch I have unpacked the cabinet to test it, I plugged in the volt transformer and the PCB.. just when I switched on the cabinet I have seen a Spark in the inside, I thought It was some static charge or any normal thing as strikers 1945 was working and there was sound.. some seconds after I have realized there was no image in the monitor. I have unplugged the cabinet and checked everything, I switched on the cabinet again and the same, although after 10-20 seconds the power board has made an spark and has died..(no led light, no PCB sounds) Now the only think it works when I switch on the cabinet is the noisy fan.
I think that problem has been the stepdown transformer, but it worked correct with my Japanese X360 and wifes Japanese hairdryer... and when I plug the cabinet with it the fan still works...
I am scared I have fried the power board and probably the monitor...
Help please
After some months trying to get a tiny candy cab in Spain finally I have gotten an Irem Madonna delivered this afternoon at home thanks to rklok. Cabinet it's cosmetically in very good condition, clean and tidy (End of nice day)
After lunch I have unpacked the cabinet to test it, I plugged in the volt transformer and the PCB.. just when I switched on the cabinet I have seen a Spark in the inside, I thought It was some static charge or any normal thing as strikers 1945 was working and there was sound.. some seconds after I have realized there was no image in the monitor. I have unplugged the cabinet and checked everything, I switched on the cabinet again and the same, although after 10-20 seconds the power board has made an spark and has died..(no led light, no PCB sounds) Now the only think it works when I switch on the cabinet is the noisy fan.
I think that problem has been the stepdown transformer, but it worked correct with my Japanese X360 and wifes Japanese hairdryer... and when I plug the cabinet with it the fan still works...
I am scared I have fried the power board and probably the monitor...
Help please
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Re: Irem Madonna. Help
you won't resolve this without using a multimeter
also i would bet that your stepdown has nowhere near the correct rating to run a cab(minimum 150watt)
also i would bet that your stepdown has nowhere near the correct rating to run a cab(minimum 150watt)
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Re: Irem Madonna. Help
So, I need a new stepdown, a new power board and a multimeter to realize the monitor is probably fried... Grant, what worry me more it's the monitor condition, what are the chances that monitor is OK? I think repairing it or finding a replacement here in Spain it's going to cost me a kidney and surgery...
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Sad news m8, but hopefully it wont be too bad - one thing for sure i that there are people such as Grant who will be able to give you the best help going...
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Re: Irem Madonna. Help
Alex, don't worry mate. Just buy a multimeter off ebay (20 euro) and follow grants insructions. If the power supply is screwed it's an easy fix for 30 euro. If it's the chassis, we'll find you one *somewhere* in europe. Don't worry.
You are still lucky - you have a very rare machine!
You are still lucky - you have a very rare machine!
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take a photo and mark where you saw the sparks,also post loads of photos of the inside of the cab
do not worry we can fix it
do not worry we can fix it
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Re: Irem Madonna. Help
Thank you very much everybody for cheering me up
As soon as possible I'll post a load of pictures from the cabinet, also I'll look for a new stepdown and a power supply...
Let's cross fingers
As soon as possible I'll post a load of pictures from the cabinet, also I'll look for a new stepdown and a power supply...
Let's cross fingers
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Re: Irem Madonna. Help
Don't turn anything on again until it's been looked over, eh?
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I have only taken pics from the power supply and surroundings, sorry for not taking pics from the monitor as it's not very accessible at all. I am looking to buy a new replacement for the power supply (suggestions where and which?) and a new stepdown transformer
Grant, you should live closer Barcelona... I should take the cabinet in a heartbeat
Grant, you should live closer Barcelona... I should take the cabinet in a heartbeat
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Re: Irem Madonna. Help
Sorry if this is obvious but the bottom connector on the PSU looks like it's not connected.
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- unless you did not unplug the PSU, both AC input and DC ouput connectors are indeed loose
- the monitor's neck card seems to be not entirely leveled, just a question of gently pushing it back in
- the monitor's neck card seems to be not entirely leveled, just a question of gently pushing it back in
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Re: Irem Madonna. Help
yep just the ac input plug on the psu is not pushed in correctly-but you do need a a min 150watt stepdown
estoy mas que contento a visita usted en barcelona-pero pagar para mi ticket
estoy mas que contento a visita usted en barcelona-pero pagar para mi ticket
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Well it seems like an easy fix, but be careful with the monitor chassis! Irem Madonna uses a 25 inch monitor, not easy to find anymore!
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Re: Irem Madonna. Help
Aren't there many arcades in the Spanish tourist places? Maybe you could score a wooden junk cab with a good 25 inch monitor?
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man you got no chance,crt monitors in spain are as rare as hellAkuma wrote:Aren't there many arcades in the Spanish tourist places? Maybe you could score a wooden junk cab with a good 25 inch monitor?
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It's not just spain, it's that it's 25 inches rather than 29, a rather rare size even in Japan.grantspain wrote:man you got no chance,crt monitors in spain are as rare as hellAkuma wrote:Aren't there many arcades in the Spanish tourist places? Maybe you could score a wooden junk cab with a good 25 inch monitor?
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yosai wrote:Sorry if this is obvious but the bottom connector on the PSU looks like it's not connected.
neokoen wrote:- unless you did not unplug the PSU, both AC input and DC ouput connectors are indeed loose
Thanks for help mates, I know that PSU connectors are not pushed right. I took them off to make some pictures from the inside of PSU.grantspain wrote:yep just the ac input plug on the psu is not pushed in correctly
Yes, first thing to do together with getting a new PSU. Grant, do you know where to buy them here in Spain? Or any recommended seller in the UK?grantspain wrote: you do need a a min 150watt stepdown
grantspain wrote: estoy mas que contento a visita usted en barcelona-pero pagar para mi ticket
maybe the easiest alternative although I don't discard putting the cab in the car and going to visit you...
It's difficult but not impossible to get a Crt monitor here in Spain, many of them are 15Khz Hantarex monitors with severe burn marks.. so my first option If I am able to make it work it's the monitor in the Madonna... has Toshiba tube with nice scanlines and 15/25Khzzorahk wrote:It's not just spain, it's that it's 25 inches rather than 29, a rather rare size even in Japan.grantspain wrote:man you got no chance,crt monitors in spain are as rare as hellAkuma wrote:Aren't there many arcades in the Spanish tourist places? Maybe you could score a wooden junk cab with a good 25 inch monitor?
Thanks mates for helping, I'll update as soon as I get the stepdown and PSU or got any new
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Re: Irem Madonna. Help
first get the stepdown,you can find them on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/300W-Step-Down-Vo ... 5ad24a0025"
then make sure you have a multimeter to read voltages and check fuses
when you turn on the cab look at the neck to see if it glows orange
i seriously doubt the psu is damaged unless you sent it 230vac
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/300W-Step-Down-Vo ... 5ad24a0025"
then make sure you have a multimeter to read voltages and check fuses
when you turn on the cab look at the neck to see if it glows orange
i seriously doubt the psu is damaged unless you sent it 230vac
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Re: Irem Madonna. Help
Finally I have received the stepdown, the new PSU and the multimeter.
I have changed the PSU and tested with a PCB everything (sound, buttons, joys, coinmech) works right minus the monitor. I don't see any orange light or glow coming from neck, it seems really dead. I have tested with the multimeter that the 110V arrives to the monitor but I don't know what to test now...
On friday I will take the monitor off the cabinet to see it in detail.
What's next step?
I have changed the PSU and tested with a PCB everything (sound, buttons, joys, coinmech) works right minus the monitor. I don't see any orange light or glow coming from neck, it seems really dead. I have tested with the multimeter that the 110V arrives to the monitor but I don't know what to test now...
On friday I will take the monitor off the cabinet to see it in detail.
What's next step?
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first check the fuse/fuses on the monitor-if blown change with same value-if blow again then check diodes in the primary psu circuit
so in other words you put 230v into this machine
so in other words you put 230v into this machine