Recommended Cabinets to Minimize Input & Display Lag by EXA

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Recommended Cabinets to Minimize Input & Display Lag by EXA

Post by ArcadeSTG » January 1st, 2020, 9:19 pm

I came across this article from EXA Arcadia:
Recommended Cabinets to Minimize Input & Display Lag
https://exa.ac/en/2019/02/19/inputlag/?v=04c19fa1e772

Long story short:

Faster (For Hardcore Customers)
Vewlix C (768p)
Vewlix F (768p)
Vewlix VS (768p)
Vewlix Diamond Black (1080p)
Lindbergh Universal Refurbished (1080p)
Noir Full HD (1080p)

Normal (For Casual Customers)
Lindbergh Universal (768p)
Noir (768p)

Slowest (Not Recommended)
Vewlix L aka AMI (768p)
Vewlix Diamond (768p)

To be honest, this triggers a few questions to me:

A) I wasn't aware of a 1080P Lindbergh cabinet. Refurbished means that Sega sold or installed 1080P monitors to those cabinets at some point?

B) Vewlix Diamond. Is there any evidence of the amount of lag of the two monitors of the Diamond?
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Re: Recommended Cabinets to Minimize Input & Display Lag by EXA

Post by ArcadeSTG » January 2nd, 2020, 3:08 am

I gathered available specs of monitors on the following table.
thanks Derick2k (from arcade-projects) since all input lag measurements were took by them.

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There is also a thread of a Lindbergh cabinet upgraded with the LG 1080:
arcade-projects.com/forums/ind…ded-with ... 0-monitor/
Is that what Lindbergh Universal Refurbished means?

Does anyone know the panel model of Black DIA to look for the specs?
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Re: Recommended Cabinets to Minimize Input & Display Lag by EXA

Post by Jan » January 2nd, 2020, 11:49 am

Long story short:

Faster (For Hardcore Customers)
Vewlix C (768p)
Vewlix F (768p)
Vewlix VS (768p)
Vewlix Diamond Black (1080p)
Lindbergh Universal Refurbished (1080p)
Noir Full HD (1080p)

Normal (For Casual Customers)
Lindbergh Universal (768p)
Noir (768p)

Slowest (Not Recommended)
Vewlix L aka AMI (768p)
Vewlix Diamond (768p)

We talked about this before, that list is completely useless. On par with the other quality informations.

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Re: Recommended Cabinets to Minimize Input & Display Lag by EXA

Post by zak » January 2nd, 2020, 12:06 pm

I couldn't see a DVI-D connector/cable in the Diamond Black.

Do you just have to use a VGA to DVI-D adapter?

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Re: Recommended Cabinets to Minimize Input & Display Lag by EXA

Post by Ikaru » January 2nd, 2020, 12:43 pm

zak wrote:
January 2nd, 2020, 12:06 MP
I couldn't see a DVI-D connector/cable in the Diamond Black.

Do you just have to use a VGA to DVI-D adapter?
Nope you have to add one ;) you have the connector behind your screen .

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Re: Recommended Cabinets to Minimize Input & Display Lag by EXA

Post by SuperPang » January 2nd, 2020, 12:52 pm

There's one included with the kit.

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Re: Recommended Cabinets to Minimize Input & Display Lag by EXA

Post by Jan » January 2nd, 2020, 1:50 pm

keep in mind that dvi will limit the picture adjustments you can make.

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Re: Recommended Cabinets to Minimize Input & Display Lag by EXA

Post by ArcadeSTG » January 3rd, 2020, 6:45 pm

Jan, I imagine you writing in your phone with a row of vewlixses behind you. Of course, that row has all available models :awe:

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Re: Recommended Cabinets to Minimize Input & Display Lag by EXA

Post by Jan » January 3rd, 2020, 8:41 pm

I have a very gassy dog sitting behind me, does that count ?

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Re: Recommended Cabinets to Minimize Input & Display Lag by EXA

Post by ArcadeSTG » January 4th, 2020, 2:00 am

Jan wrote:
January 3rd, 2020, 8:41 MP
I have a very gassy dog sitting behind me, does that count ?
I thought you were more a cat-guy 8-)

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This is what I found relevant to the topic in the Exa thread:
Shou wrote:
September 27th, 2019, 9:37 am
As previously said, there are many revisions of monitors. In all of the Diamonds that we bought, it had much worse display lag than C or F.

We tested with Leo Bodnar 720p and 1080p on all cabs on our list.

When we have some time, we will do the tests again with all models and monitor builds that we have on hand
EOJ wrote:
September 30th, 2019, 11:16 MP
16ms = 1 frame. 3 frames of total input lag (=48ms) is the max acceptable lag for an arcade game IMO. The CAVE PCB games have 2 frames of lag, for comparison.
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Re: Recommended Cabinets to Minimize Input & Display Lag by EXA

Post by cools » January 4th, 2020, 11:05 am

Jan wrote:
January 2nd, 2020, 1:50 MP
keep in mind that dvi will limit the picture adjustments you can make.
1080p VGA looks like **** regardless of monitor + cable. Digital only.
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