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Installing a sega i/o in a vewlix?

Posted: February 20th, 2019, 8:59 am
by penrhos
I bought a pair of vewlix F from John's order and they turned up with fastio cards in them....

All my stuff is JVS.

I managed to pick up one taito JVS card so one cab has been reconfigured.

So far I've been unable to source another Taito card but I do have a couple of the Sega ones.

I know the connector and the pinout is different but is it feasible to do it without the Taito-Sega conversion kit?

Re: Installing a sega i/o in a vewlix?

Posted: February 20th, 2019, 10:11 am
by wigsplitta
It should be possible with a bit of tracing out. Here's a couple of pics of the adaptor if that helps:
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These might come in handy too:
https://forum.arcadeotaku.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=32694
LemonyVengeance wrote: housing (board Side): HIF3BA-60PA-2.54DSA(71)
connector (cable side): HIF3BA-60D-2.54C
Pins: HIF3-2022SCF

Re: Installing a sega i/o in a vewlix?

Posted: February 20th, 2019, 11:31 pm
by penrhos
This is from the fastio manual (and the 60-pin is supposed to be the same as the JVS PCB)....

Taito - 60 pin:-

01 (+12V)
02 (+12V)
03 (+5V)
04 (+5V)
05 (ADC0)
06 (ADC1)
07 (ADC2)
08 (ADC3)
09 (ADC4)
10 (ADC5)
11 (ADC6)
12 (Analogue-GND)
13 (Analogue+5V)
14 (Analogue-GND)
15 (Coin SW1)
16 (Coin SW2)
17 (1P Service)
18 (2P Service)
19 (1P Start)
20 (2P Start)
21 (Test Sw)
22 (Tilt Sw)
23 (1P Up)
24 (2P Up)
25 (1P Down)
26 (2P Down)
27 (1P Left)
28 (2P Left)
29 (1P Right)
30 (2P Right)
31 (1P SW1)
32 (2P SW1)
33 (1P SW2)
34 (2P SW2)
35 (1P SW3)
36 (2P SW3)
37 (1P SW4)
38 (2P SW4)
39 (1P SW5)
40 (2P SW5)
41 (1P SW6)
42 (2P SW6)
43 (1P SW7)
44 (2P SW7)
45 (1P SW8)
46 (2P SW8)
47 (Coin Meter 1)
48 (Coin Meter 2)
49 (1P-Output 1)
50 (2P-Output 1)
51 (1P-Output 2)
52 (2P-Output 2)
53 (1P-Output 3)
54 (2P-Output 3)
55 (1P-Output 4)
56 (2P-Output 4)
57 (GND)
58 (GND)
59 (GND)
60 (GND)

For Power:-

P1.
01 (+12V)
02 (+12V)
03 (GND)
04 (GND)

P2.
01 (+12V)
02 (+5V)
03 (+5V)
04 (GND)
05 (GND)


Sega V3 - 60 pin:-

01 (+EXV)
02 (+EXV)
03 (+5V)
04 (+5V)
05 (+5V)
06 (+5V)
07 (+5V)
08 (+5V)
09 (GND)
10 (GND)
11 (GND)
12 (GND)
13 (GND)
14 (GND)
15 (GND)
16 (GND)
17 (1P Start)
18 (2P Start)
19 (1P Right)
20 (2P Right)
21 (1P Left)
22 (2P Left)
23 (1P Up)
24 (2P Up)
25 (1P Down)
26 (2P Down)
27 (1P SW1)
28 (2P SW1)
29 (1P SW2)
30 (2P SW2)
31 (1P SW3)
32 (2P SW3)
33 (1P SW4)
34 (2P SW4)
35 (1P SW5)
36 (2P SW5)
37 (1P SW6)
38 (2P SW6)
39 (1P SW7)
40 (2P SW7)
41 (1P Service)
42 (2P Service)
43 (Test Sw)
44 (Tilt Sw)
45 (Coin SW1)
46 (Coin SW2)
47 NC
48 NC
49 (Coin Meter 1)
50 (Coin Meter 2)
51 (Output 1-1)
52 (Output 2-1)
53 (Output 1-2)
54 (Output 2-2)
55 (Output 1-3)
56 (Output 2-3)
57 (+12V)
58 (+12V)
59 (+12V)
60 (+12V)

CN2
01 (+12V)
02 (+12V)
03 (NC)
04 (GND)
05 (GND)

CN7
01 (+5V)
02 (+5V)
03 (GND)
04 (GND)

CN6
01 (VCC)
02 (VCC)
03 (AD0)
04 (AD4)
05 (GND)
06 (GND)
07 (VCC)
08 (VCC)
09 (AD1)
10 (AD5)
11 (GND)
12 (GND)
13 (VCC)
14 (VCC)
15 (AD2)
16 (AD6)
17 (GND)
18 (GND)
19 (VCC)
20 (VCC)
21 (AD3)
22 (AD6)
23 (GND)
24 (GND)
25 (NC)
26 (NC)

Re: Installing a sega i/o in a vewlix?

Posted: February 21st, 2019, 12:56 pm
by penrhos
I'm thinking - the easiest way to do this is to make a Sega to Vewlix power adapter that merges P1/P2 on Taito to CN2/CN7 on the Sega one and then make a new 60-pin connector that has the Vewlix plugs for J, K and C.

Re: Installing a sega i/o in a vewlix?

Posted: February 21st, 2019, 1:51 pm
by wigsplitta
Thanks for digging out the Taito pinout, i've added it to the wiki
penrhos wrote:
February 21st, 2019, 12:56 pm
I'm thinking - the easiest way to do this is to make a Sega to Vewlix power adapter that merges P1/P2 on Taito to CN2/CN7 on the Sega one and then make a new 60-pin connector that has the Vewlix plugs for J, K and C.
That sounds like a good plan - instead of making an 60pin adaptor that could only be used in the Vewlix, make a loom that can be used in other Taito cabs 8-)

Re: Installing a sega i/o in a vewlix?

Posted: February 24th, 2019, 12:03 pm
by penrhos
taken from https://wiki.arcadeotaku.com/w/Taito_Vewlix_C

Player 1 controls connector: "J" JST YLP-15V Male (Cabinet) <--> JST YLR-15V Female (Control panel)

1 - Start
2 - Up
3 - Down
4 - Left
5 - Right
6 - Button 1
7 - Button 2
8 - Button 3
9 - Button 4
10 - Button 5
11 - Button 6
12 - Ground
13 - N/C
14 - N/C
15 - N/C

Player 2 controls connector: "K" - JST YLR-12V Female (Cabinet) <--> JST YLP-12V Male (Control panel)

1 - Start
2 - Up
3 - Down
4 - Left
5 - Right
6 - Button 1
7 - Button 2
8 - Button 3
9 - Button 4
10 - Button 5
11 - Button 6
12 - Ground

Service connector "C".

1 - Coin-SW
2 - Coin SW GND
3 - Coin-meter GND
4 - Coin-meter +5V
5 - Service SW
6 - Test SW
7 - Service/Test GND
8 - N/C

We also know that +EXV on pin-1 needs to be connected to pin-3 or the controls wont work.

So Sega 60-pin to 1P & 2P controls Taito goes...

15 -> P1 - 12 (GND)
16 -> P2 - 12 (GND)
17 -> P1 - 01 (Start)
18 -> P2 - 01 (Start)
19 -> P1 - 05 (RIGHT)
20 -> P2 - 05 (RIGHT)
21 -> P1 - 04 (LEFT)
22 -> P2 - 04 (LEFT)
23 -> P1 - 02 (UP)
24 -> P2 - 02 (UP)
25 -> P1 - 03 (DOWN)
26 -> P2 - 03 (DOWN)
27 -> P1 - 06 (FIRE 1)
28 -> P2 - 06 (FIRE 1)
29 -> P1 - 07 (FIRE 2)
30 -> P2 - 07 (FIRE 2)
31 -> P1 - 08 (FIRE 3)
32 -> P2 - 08 (FIRE 3)
33 -> P1 - 09 (FIRE 4)
34 -> P2 - 09 (FIRE 4)
35 -> P1 - 10 (FIRE 5)
36 -> P2 - 10 (FIRE 5)
37 -> P1 - 11 (FIRE 6)
38 -> P2 - 11 (FIRE 6)

Then I need to make an adapter to connect up these (but as half of this doesn't exist in a Vewlix it's only the odd pins that need wiring up)...

41 -> C05 (1P Service)
42 -> N/C (2P Service)
43 -> C06 (Test Sw)
44 -> N/C (Tilt Sw)
45 -> C01 (Coin SW1)
46 -> N/C (Coin SW2)
49 -> C04 (Coin Meter 1)
50 -> N/C (Coin Meter 2)
13/14 -> C02, C03, C07 (GND)

Re: Installing a sega i/o in a vewlix?

Posted: February 24th, 2019, 5:21 pm
by penrhos
Finally to map out the power...

Taito -> Sega V3.

P1.
01 (+12V) -> CN2 - 01
02 (+12V) -> CN2 - 02
03 (GND) -> CN2 - 04
04 (GND) -> CN2 - 05

P2.
01 (+12V) -> N/C
02 (+5V) -> CN7 - 01
03 (+5V) -> CN7 - 02
04 (GND) -> CN7 - 03
05 (GND) -> CN7 - 04