120v too high for 100v cabs?
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120v too high for 100v cabs?
I need to pick up a second stepdown transformer for use with my E2 and I was searching the forum for info on them when I came across [this] thread of o1s1ns and he mentioned having troubles as his house wiring outputs at a low voltage and the resulting stepped down voltage was too low.
I thought I would measure my mains voltage and it's outputting at around 245v which is obviously pretty high. I've been using a Maplins 230>110v stepdown on my Astro and so I thought I would measure the output on that and it's ~120v
Is 120v too high for 100v cabs? I'm not sure what the tolerances are but 20% seems pretty high.
I'm thinking of selling the Maplins one and getting a couple of the Airlink ones as they are 230>100v. If the stepdown works the same then I'll probably get ~110v out but that seems much better than 120v.
On a side note, which Airlink transformer is suitable for a single cab, the 250va one?
I thought I would measure my mains voltage and it's outputting at around 245v which is obviously pretty high. I've been using a Maplins 230>110v stepdown on my Astro and so I thought I would measure the output on that and it's ~120v
Is 120v too high for 100v cabs? I'm not sure what the tolerances are but 20% seems pretty high.
I'm thinking of selling the Maplins one and getting a couple of the Airlink ones as they are 230>100v. If the stepdown works the same then I'll probably get ~110v out but that seems much better than 120v.
On a side note, which Airlink transformer is suitable for a single cab, the 250va one?
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Re: 120v too high for 100v cabs?
Japan has a +/- 10% tolerance.
You should average your mains over time, it could've just been high at the time and normally sitting around 230v. The Airlink would still be superior. 250va is fine.
Why not get a bunch of custom transformers from them and convert the cabs to UK mains?
You should average your mains over time, it could've just been high at the time and normally sitting around 230v. The Airlink would still be superior. 250va is fine.
Why not get a bunch of custom transformers from them and convert the cabs to UK mains?
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Re: 120v too high for 100v cabs?
I converted my blast to 230v mains by putting the transformer in the cab (the blast loom is perfect for this, it has a dedicated plug for a stepdown in the cab). I used a 200va transformer which is tiny but enough as I dont use the PSU of the cab.
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Re: 120v too high for 100v cabs?
You can become crazy, as I did, and tailor the transformers to your needs in order to get 100v:
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Re: 120v too high for 100v cabs?
I use a Naomi Uni internal step-down unit in the Versus in the coinbox I would say it's probably one of the most widespread used step-downs out there.
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Re: 120v too high for 100v cabs?
If you go for Airlink, get the biggest (watts) you can afford. The Maplin ones are fine for most setups but my Vewlix C and TX2 needed more than the 300watts on the Maplin jobby.
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Re: 120v too high for 100v cabs?
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I saw your thread on converting cabs but I'm not sure what advantage getting the E2 changed to 240v would have over just using a stepdown as I would rather not replace the PSU if it's working fine. Is there anything else I'm missing?
Cheers duder, I'll take a few more readings and see if it changes.cools wrote:Japan has a +/- 10% tolerance.
You should average your mains over time, it could've just been high at the time and normally sitting around 230v. The Airlink would still be superior. 250va is fine.
Why not get a bunch of custom transformers from them and convert the cabs to UK mains?
I saw your thread on converting cabs but I'm not sure what advantage getting the E2 changed to 240v would have over just using a stepdown as I would rather not replace the PSU if it's working fine. Is there anything else I'm missing?
**** hardcore, I love it!ArcadeSTG wrote:You can become crazy, as I did, and tailor the transformers to your needs in order to get 100v:
That's a very good point Pete. I have at least two or three stepdowns from out of various cabs and I know at least one of the has a 100v output, that should keep me gaming for the time being whilst I keep an eye on the mains output.Pete wrote:I use a Naomi Uni internal step-down unit in the Versus in the coinbox I would say it's probably one of the most widespread used step-downs out there.
Thanks Andy. the 500va one is double the output for £10 more so it might be worth going for those.CPS2 wrote:If you go for Airlink, get the biggest (watts) you can afford. The Maplin ones are fine for most setups but my Vewlix C and TX2 needed more than the 300watts on the Maplin jobby.
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Re: 120v too high for 100v cabs?
Dont use 120v on nanao monitors as it strains the components over time.
Naomi stepdown is ideal.
Naomi stepdown is ideal.
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Re: 120v too high for 100v cabs?
Good to know Auntie, thanks. It's probably a good thing I've not had time to play my cabs much recently
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Re: 120v too high for 100v cabs?
No need to replace the PSU in an E2, you wire the stepdown in line with the mains only. I switched out the PSU in the Aero Table (room) and Pony (inadequate power) for other reasons. In these the stepdown was just for the monitor. I do it for the aesthetics and so that I can use the cab power switch rather than having to get at the stepdown to power on/off.FrancoB wrote:Cheers duder, I'll take a few more readings and see if it changes.cools wrote:Japan has a +/- 10% tolerance.
You should average your mains over time, it could've just been high at the time and normally sitting around 230v. The Airlink would still be superior. 250va is fine.
Why not get a bunch of custom transformers from them and convert the cabs to UK mains?
I saw your thread on converting cabs but I'm not sure what advantage getting the E2 changed to 240v would have over just using a stepdown as I would rather not replace the PSU if it's working fine. Is there anything else I'm missing?
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Re: 120v too high for 100v cabs?
Ah gotcha.
I've got all my cabs power controlled by remote control as they can be a pain to get to. Think I'll just stick a stepdown in the base of the E2 and leave it stock. There are some handy notches in the E2 back panel to run the power cable out of
I've got all my cabs power controlled by remote control as they can be a pain to get to. Think I'll just stick a stepdown in the base of the E2 and leave it stock. There are some handy notches in the E2 back panel to run the power cable out of
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Re: 120v too high for 100v cabs?
I object to paying for the standby power those remote switches require
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Re: 120v too high for 100v cabs?
I have one easy access switch that they all connect to and then I power them independently with the remote
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Re: 120v too high for 100v cabs?
Another point to remember about Naomi step-downs is I have mine powering 2x Nanao monitors at the same time so I guess they have the wattage required.
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Re: 120v too high for 100v cabs?
They are enormous, Craig told me the wattage before but it's completely slipped my mind. They are pretty heavy duty though. Plus you get a 17v line to run a stereo amp from
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Re: 120v too high for 100v cabs?
They are pretty hefty indeed.
IIRC there's plenty of room in the E2, the Astro not so much. The Pony is 230v so I'm good there.
Is the wattage labeled on them? I'll have a look tomorrow.
Good point about the 17vAC, that could be handy, I think I still have a Naomi amp or two Although one of the stepdowns I have I have is a bit of an oddity as it doesn't have the 17vAC. It came out of a Sega cab but it must have come from one that didn't use that amplifier.
IIRC there's plenty of room in the E2, the Astro not so much. The Pony is 230v so I'm good there.
Is the wattage labeled on them? I'll have a look tomorrow.
Good point about the 17vAC, that could be handy, I think I still have a Naomi amp or two Although one of the stepdowns I have I have is a bit of an oddity as it doesn't have the 17vAC. It came out of a Sega cab but it must have come from one that didn't use that amplifier.
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Re: 120v too high for 100v cabs?
Probably overkill, but I'm running the big Airlink and 2 of these.
http://www.airlinktransformers.com/japa ... UK-JA3000/"
I can run 8 100v devices at the same time with no worries about overloading anything.
http://www.airlinktransformers.com/japa ... UK-JA3000/"
I can run 8 100v devices at the same time with no worries about overloading anything.
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Re: 120v too high for 100v cabs?
I use an Airlink for my Blast and Astro, can't recommend them highly enough
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Re: 120v too high for 100v cabs?
I also use the airlinks for my NNC's and they are great
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Re: 120v too high for 100v cabs?
+1 on airlinks, have them for my park. Never had any problem running Taito/Wei-ya psus etc.