Darksoft's CPS2 Multikit Tech Support Thread (No Killing B-Boards!)

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Re: Darksoft's CPS2 Multikit Tech Support Thread (No Killing B-Boards!)

Postby MitsurugiW » August 8th, 2015, 6:36 am

If you want you can always send the kit and pcb to me for testing.
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Re: Darksoft's CPS2 Multikit Tech Support Thread (No Killing B-Boards!)

Postby leonardoliveira » August 8th, 2015, 2:22 pm

EVAWINGZERO wrote:All pins resoldered, new Micro SD card used, still same error.

I did notice that on trying to boot AVP, It says the "Object" Ram is the only one erroring.

Not sure if that helps diagnose anything, but It's all I've got. Not sure where to go next... :(


Object RAM is actually part of the B board. Have you tried to disconnect the multi board and try some EPROM game?

I would believe the outcome would be similar.
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Re: Darksoft's CPS2 Multikit Tech Support Thread (No Killing B-Boards!)

Postby EVAWINGZERO » August 8th, 2015, 5:14 pm

I have tried 3 different Boards with it, and It's all the same results. I took off the Multi, put on a Super Turbo board I have and It fired right up.
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Re: Darksoft's CPS2 Multikit Tech Support Thread (No Killing B-Boards!)

Postby darksoft » August 8th, 2015, 6:30 pm

EVAWINGZERO wrote:I have tried 3 different Boards with it, and It's all the same results. I took off the Multi, put on a Super Turbo board I have and It fired right up.


So you basically switched the B Board, what Oliveira sais is that you take a known-to-work B Board and install the kit there.
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Re: Darksoft's CPS2 Multikit Tech Support Thread (No Killing B-Boards!)

Postby EVAWINGZERO » August 8th, 2015, 7:30 pm

Ahh, I see what your saying. Pull the kit off of my current B Board, put it on another B-Board to see if it runs.

Well, gotta find another B-Board to try out now. I'll keep you updated, and thanks for the info!
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Re: Darksoft's CPS2 Multikit Tech Support Thread (No Killing B-Boards!)

Postby delti90 » August 9th, 2015, 12:26 am

Finally got another B board to test this on. Everything works except for my sound. It is the exact garbled sound that everyone else is describing. Sound will work for a moment, then it'll just play random sounds. It's a rev3 board. I tried running the wire from pin 9 of the gpal under the board, then tried lifting pin 9 and just running it to the connector on the big board. No help. I had an extra G pal so I tried that as well. I also tried going back to the f pal and lifting pin 7 and soldering that. Is there some other solution to this issue that I might have missed?

Edit: here's a video of it https://www.hasntfiguredouthowtoembedyoutubeproperly.com/watch?v=RzKE6Qa6Tdo
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Re: Darksoft's CPS2 Multikit Tech Support Thread (No Killing B-Boards!)

Postby darksoft » August 9th, 2015, 9:00 am

delti90 wrote:Finally got another B board to test this on. Everything works except for my sound. It is the exact garbled sound that everyone else is describing. Sound will work for a moment, then it'll just play random sounds. It's a rev3 board. I tried running the wire from pin 9 of the gpal under the board, then tried lifting pin 9 and just running it to the connector on the big board. No help. I had an extra G pal so I tried that as well. I also tried going back to the f pal and lifting pin 7 and soldering that. Is there some other solution to this issue that I might have missed?

Edit: here's a video of it https://www.hasntfiguredouthowtoembedyoutubeproperly.com/watch?v=RzKE6Qa6Tdo


Nope, that's not what people are having. People have a crackling on the sound. The sound is the right one always, but you get like crackling.

In your case it's clearly a configuration problem. Check carefully the jumpers and that all pins sit properly. Post a pic. That would help.

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Re: Darksoft's CPS2 Multikit Tech Support Thread (No Killing B-Boards!)

Postby MitsurugiW » August 9th, 2015, 9:43 am

delti90 wrote:Finally got another B board to test this on. Everything works except for my sound. It is the exact garbled sound that everyone else is describing. Sound will work for a moment, then it'll just play random sounds. It's a rev3 board. I tried running the wire from pin 9 of the gpal under the board, then tried lifting pin 9 and just running it to the connector on the big board. No help. I had an extra G pal so I tried that as well. I also tried going back to the f pal and lifting pin 7 and soldering that. Is there some other solution to this issue that I might have missed?

Edit: here's a video of it https://www.hasntfiguredouthowtoembedyoutubeproperly.com/watch?v=RzKE6Qa6Tdo


If you connected the pal directly to the j17 on the main kit pcb and you still have incorrect sounds then you most likely have a jumper issue with the sound jumpers. Show some pictures of the jumpers.
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Re: Darksoft's CPS2 Multikit Tech Support Thread (No Killing B-Boards!)

Postby wigsplitta » August 9th, 2015, 6:19 pm

Any suggestions on what be causing my issue of garbled sound having just done a firmware update?

All was working nicely, performed the firmware update for the auto-reset, put the board back together, and connected the cable from swd5 --> b21 cn1.

The auto reset works nicely, video is all good, but the sound is now completely garbled. :(
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Re: Darksoft's CPS2 Multikit Tech Support Thread (No Killing B-Boards!)

Postby leonardoliveira » August 9th, 2015, 9:34 pm

Check if any of the needles on the back of the board got bent or broken.
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Re: Darksoft's CPS2 Multikit Tech Support Thread (No Killing B-Boards!)

Postby bloodhokuto » August 10th, 2015, 10:46 pm

I think i've given up trying to run this in the case.

Every time I end up with garbled sound, so I take it apart, fiddle with it a bit to get it working, reassemble and then ... same problem.

I think that when its in the case and I connect it to the A board, something flexes and there is a contact issue.

Thing is, all the pins look good, I think it must be bridge connector. If that was a cable I think the problem would be solved.

Anyone else have an issue with it running fine except when you put it in the case?


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Re: Darksoft's CPS2 Multikit Tech Support Thread (No Killing B-Boards!)

Postby darksoft » August 11th, 2015, 7:55 am

bloodhokuto wrote:I think i've given up trying to run this in the case.

I think that when its in the case and I connect it to the A board, something flexes and there is a contact issue.

Thing is, all the pins look good, I think it must be bridge connector. If that was a cable I think the problem would be solved.

Anyone else have an issue with it running fine except when you put it in the case?



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Thanks for posting your experience with post. Regarding working with case closed, I believe some contact issue is happening there. Try repeating the process closing the case slowly so you see what may be trigering the problem. So far, noone reported his kit having sound problems only when the case is closed.
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Re: Darksoft's CPS2 Multikit Tech Support Thread (No Killing B-Boards!)

Postby glossectomy » August 14th, 2015, 1:09 am

Just wanted to chime in and say I got my kit about a week ago. Had the interconnect backwards and wasn't getting anything. Switching that around everything works perfect.

I do have 1 issue though. Both versions of hyper anniversary edition lock up almost always during the very first match. And almost always as Ken doing a shoryuken.

Anyone else have this issue? It's on a revision 7 motherboard with the gpal supplied with the kit.

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Re: Darksoft's CPS2 Multikit Tech Support Thread (No Killing B-Boards!)

Postby dreday12203 » August 14th, 2015, 8:25 am

I have the same issue also.
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Re: Darksoft's CPS2 Multikit Tech Support Thread (No Killing B-Boards!)

Postby aoiddr » August 14th, 2015, 8:32 am

bloodhokuto wrote:I think i've given up trying to run this in the case.

Every time I end up with garbled sound, so I take it apart, fiddle with it a bit to get it working, reassemble and then ... same problem.

I think that when its in the case and I connect it to the A board, something flexes and there is a contact issue.


I have a possible suggestion for you as this is what I do:
Don't screw the B Board case back together.

Put the Bottom of the B Board plastic shell on the A Board, then put on your B Board PCB+Multi. Test to see if it works. If it does, then just snap the top plastic shell on. It should still work then once you have that in place. This also makes it super easy to open the case back up if you need to.
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Re: Darksoft's CPS2 Multikit Tech Support Thread (No Killing B-Boards!)

Postby bloodhokuto » August 14th, 2015, 8:37 am

aoiddr wrote:
bloodhokuto wrote:
I have a possible suggestion for you as this is what I do:
Don't screw the B Board case back together.

Put the Bottom of the B Board plastic shell on the A Board, then put on your B Board PCB+Multi. Test to see if it works. If it does, then just snap the top plastic shell on. It should still work then once you have that in place. This also makes it super easy to open the case back up if you need to.


Thanks, you know I was thinking of doing just that last night. - put it in the bottom part, mount it on the A board, test it, then slip on the cover as gently as possible, make sure it works - then never touch it again!
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Re: Darksoft's CPS2 Multikit Tech Support Thread (No Killing B-Boards!)

Postby wigsplitta » August 14th, 2015, 8:51 am

Mr bloodhokuto, what steps are you taking to get it working again?
After taking mine apart to update, I can no longer get it working again without garbled sound.
Reseated everything five or six times. Everything looks flush, the reinforcement boards are in place, so no pins are bent broken. I've never put the lid back on, so that isn't putting any pressure on mine.
Do you do some fiddling whilst it's running, to get it working again, or just reseat everything whilst it's off?
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Re: Darksoft's CPS2 Multikit Tech Support Thread (No Killing B-Boards!)

Postby bloodhokuto » August 14th, 2015, 2:07 pm

wigsplitta wrote:Mr bloodhokuto, what steps are you taking to get it working again?
After taking mine apart to update, I can no longer get it working again without garbled sound.
Reseated everything five or six times. Everything looks flush, the reinforcement boards are in place, so no pins are bent broken. I've never put the lid back on, so that isn't putting any pressure on mine.
Do you do some fiddling whilst it's running, to get it working again, or just reseat everything whilst it's off?


Yo!

Re the garbled sound, I check the smaller PCB pins and also the connection to the interconnect with the main board [If someone could replace that with a cable rather than a fixed rigid interface, i feel that this would fix 99% of the problems.

Because the way it fixes to both pcb's (rigid but floating connection which aint great), you may find that it sits a little bit off to one side, I then try to straighten it out, but at the same time keep the pressure on the contacts to the B Board, usually this fixes it.

When I was testing this, I must have done this at least a half a dozen times, and each time I managed to get it working (albeit outside of the case).

Sometimes the graphics would go off and that means that the contacts were giving bias to the smaller board, so I had to angle it back towards the main board, and this then either fixed it, or fixed the graphics but cause the garbled sound.

The wierd thing is that sometimes i would turn it on and try to adjust it 'on the fly' if it wasn't running properly, and nothing would happen whilst it was running, but upon turning it off and on it would then change.

So far I see the following;

Solid colour = bad connection with A Board.
Screwed Graphics = check pins from main Pcb & interconnect.
Garbled sound = check interconnect & also pins from the small pcb.

I have also found that crying and swearing helps too.
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Re: Darksoft's CPS2 Multikit Tech Support Thread (No Killing B-Boards!)

Postby Braintrash » August 14th, 2015, 6:44 pm

bloodhokuto wrote:I have also found that crying and swearing helps too.


How come I never tried that before?

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