Coverting Naomi Crazy Taxi to Chihiro Outrun 2?
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Coverting Naomi Crazy Taxi to Chihiro Outrun 2?
Hey guys,
Stupid question time. As per the title, would this work? I am thinking, aside from needing force feedback and the chihiro hard/software, would the I/O's and stuff be the same? They use the same shifter and pedals, right? The Outrun cab I've played on had the same up/down shifter, just labeled up/down, instead of drive reverse on the crazy taxi cab. I think the breaks on the cab I played were messed up since they wouldn't go to the floor like on my crazy taxi.
Could I get a force feedback setup to directly pop in the crazy taxi cab?
If this is possible, I would probably be down to do it, providing it didn't involve serious hacking of shiz.
If possible, please provide a list of what I would need to get to make this conversion work; I'm hoping I can get stuff from Andy perhaps?
Thoughts and advise welcome
Stupid question time. As per the title, would this work? I am thinking, aside from needing force feedback and the chihiro hard/software, would the I/O's and stuff be the same? They use the same shifter and pedals, right? The Outrun cab I've played on had the same up/down shifter, just labeled up/down, instead of drive reverse on the crazy taxi cab. I think the breaks on the cab I played were messed up since they wouldn't go to the floor like on my crazy taxi.
Could I get a force feedback setup to directly pop in the crazy taxi cab?
If this is possible, I would probably be down to do it, providing it didn't involve serious hacking of shiz.
If possible, please provide a list of what I would need to get to make this conversion work; I'm hoping I can get stuff from Andy perhaps?
Thoughts and advise welcome
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Re: Coverting Naomi Crazy Taxi to Chihiro Outrun 2?
I did exactly this earlier in the year, it's easier than you might imagine. I wrote a little guide in case anyone else wanted the info
Chihiro mobo, GD-Rom drive, OR2 disk and chip, power & link cables.
Disconnect Naomi mobo and remove.
Install Chihiro board. All the connections are exactly the same so nothing to worry about.
Connect up GD-Rom drive and power splitter at the front of the chihiro board.
This is enough to get the game running.
You will be missing Manual gear shift though, and pressing down gear changes the view so some alterations to the wiring are needed.
Crazy Taxi uses pins 23 for Drive and 25 for Reverse. Outrun 2 uses pins 24 for Gear Up and 26 for Gear Down.
Trace them to the connector.
So all the cables are there and go to the connectors on the control panel. Looks like it could be as simple as swapping the connector from the right socket to the left....surely not that simple...
Give it a try...
Well that gets the gears working. Although they are reversed (up is down, down is up) so the cables need to be switched around.
So now we have functioning gears, but lose the start button and view change.
I don't have any proper connectors at the mo so will have to use a few molex pins for now.
Hooked up the original gear down and start to both go to the start button, this will mean I can change view by hitting start during the game.
And that's it, all running properly. No hacking the wiring, to switch back to crazy taxi I just remove the new cable and change the connector over.
Chihiro mobo, GD-Rom drive, OR2 disk and chip, power & link cables.
Disconnect Naomi mobo and remove.
Install Chihiro board. All the connections are exactly the same so nothing to worry about.
Connect up GD-Rom drive and power splitter at the front of the chihiro board.
This is enough to get the game running.
You will be missing Manual gear shift though, and pressing down gear changes the view so some alterations to the wiring are needed.
Crazy Taxi uses pins 23 for Drive and 25 for Reverse. Outrun 2 uses pins 24 for Gear Up and 26 for Gear Down.
Trace them to the connector.
So all the cables are there and go to the connectors on the control panel. Looks like it could be as simple as swapping the connector from the right socket to the left....surely not that simple...
Give it a try...
Well that gets the gears working. Although they are reversed (up is down, down is up) so the cables need to be switched around.
So now we have functioning gears, but lose the start button and view change.
I don't have any proper connectors at the mo so will have to use a few molex pins for now.
Hooked up the original gear down and start to both go to the start button, this will mean I can change view by hitting start during the game.
And that's it, all running properly. No hacking the wiring, to switch back to crazy taxi I just remove the new cable and change the connector over.
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Re: Coverting Naomi Crazy Taxi to Chihiro Outrun 2?
Nice guide dude
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Re: Coverting Naomi Crazy Taxi to Chihiro Outrun 2?
Would one of them start/select button panels be usable for it? i have 2
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Re: Coverting Naomi Crazy Taxi to Chihiro Outrun 2?
Wow!! Thanks so much for that muddymusic!
I couldn't have asked for a better guide, especially considering its the same cab even.
So you didn't bother with the force feedback? How does it handle without it? Do you know if it is possible to get a force feedback from another driving cab and just pop it in?
Sorry for the stupid questions; I'm not at all familiar with JVS stuff and compatibility.
Hmmmm.... I think I will be doing this this winter as a project. Probably have to get Brendz to help.
I honestly wouldn't even be to worried about the shifter; I play on automatic
Might hit you up for some minor details when the time comes just to make sure we do it right.
Thanks again!
I couldn't have asked for a better guide, especially considering its the same cab even.
So you didn't bother with the force feedback? How does it handle without it? Do you know if it is possible to get a force feedback from another driving cab and just pop it in?
Sorry for the stupid questions; I'm not at all familiar with JVS stuff and compatibility.
Hmmmm.... I think I will be doing this this winter as a project. Probably have to get Brendz to help.
I honestly wouldn't even be to worried about the shifter; I play on automatic
Might hit you up for some minor details when the time comes just to make sure we do it right.
Thanks again!
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Re: Coverting Naomi Crazy Taxi to Chihiro Outrun 2?
Unfortunately you can't get force feedback in a Crazy Taxi cab with any game as the control panel isn't made for it. The assembly only contains return springs.
The Crazy Taxi cabs do have a nice sub woofer though
The Crazy Taxi cabs do have a nice sub woofer though
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Re: Coverting Naomi Crazy Taxi to Chihiro Outrun 2?
If you're just going to play in automatic you can leave all the wiring loom bit out - view change will be on reverse and start will function as normal. I found it fine playing on the spring steering, mine was pretty tight - you could always change over for some tighter springs if you wanted too - although nothing beats the proper feedback on a real cab
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Re: Coverting Naomi Crazy Taxi to Chihiro Outrun 2?
Protip: game is easier with no feedback and motor boards are stupidly expensive
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Re: Coverting Naomi Crazy Taxi to Chihiro Outrun 2?
Good to know.
Thanks
I am definitely going to do this!
Thanks
I am definitely going to do this!
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Re: Coverting Naomi Crazy Taxi to Chihiro Outrun 2?
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Re: Coverting Naomi Crazy Taxi to Chihiro Outrun 2?
Bumping ye old threads
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Re: Coverting Naomi Crazy Taxi to Chihiro Outrun 2?
I had actually posted saying I finally did this, then realized it was supposed to be a surprise for a meet I had over the weekend and some of those guys read this forum, so I edited my post and had thechop do the same.
Thanks again for the excellent walkthrough; made everything nice and easy!
Thanks again for the excellent walkthrough; made everything nice and easy!
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Ah, no probs glad it was helpful
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Re: Coverting Naomi Crazy Taxi to Chihiro Outrun 2?
Can anyone confirm if the jump button for Crazy Taxi High Roller is the same pin as the View button for OutRun 2?
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Re: Coverting Naomi Crazy Taxi to Chihiro Outrun 2?
I just got my Chihiro hooked up in my Crazy Taxi; haven't done the wiring mod yet. I'm getting an error that the JVS I/O is not correct. What could be wrong? Can anyone post their JVS I/O model so I can compare?
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Re: Coverting Naomi Crazy Taxi to Chihiro Outrun 2?
Should be the one with Sonic on it, part number 837-13551-92
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Re: Coverting Naomi Crazy Taxi to Chihiro Outrun 2?
Hello, sorry for the necro, I would like to know how easy is to swap a chihiro board for a naomi one in an outrun 2 sitdown cab (to play mainly initial d)
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Re: Coverting Naomi Crazy Taxi to Chihiro Outrun 2?
It's just about as simple as it gets.
Unplug Chihiro and remove game disc.
Plug in Naomi and install game disc/chip.
Job done.
initialD plays better with the bespoke iD wheel setup but using the Model 3 style dash fitted to OutRun2 cab is fine. Oh and you'll need to add a card reader if you want to save data/progress.
Unplug Chihiro and remove game disc.
Plug in Naomi and install game disc/chip.
Job done.
initialD plays better with the bespoke iD wheel setup but using the Model 3 style dash fitted to OutRun2 cab is fine. Oh and you'll need to add a card reader if you want to save data/progress.
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Re: Coverting Naomi Crazy Taxi to Chihiro Outrun 2?
Thanks, what are the differences between initial d and outrun dashboards ?They look the same to me (card reader aside)