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phillv85 wrote:
January 29th, 2019, 1:19 pm
How much are operators expected to pay for these games? :eh:

Slam and Jam looks like a **** version of NBA Jam, which a real PCB can be had for under £200....
Possible pricing for the games and motherboard, albeit not final and can vary:
http://shmupemall.com/interviews/interv ... 19145.html
– At what price do you intend to sell an exA-Arcadia kit? And what about games?

Eric Chung: We have not really announced a price yet, but you can expect one kit, motherboard plus game, to cost around US$2000. And then, depending on the game, around $1000 to $1500. We are still looking into this to see what the price will be. But as you know, a new CAVE shooting game was sold around $1800, so it’s more or less the standard price in Japan.
As for the My Slam and Jam along with the whole sizzle reel, it may not seem impressive at first due to many of the videos being placeholders of existing games from home release. However, when the first set of games are about to be ready for launch, then all of these placeholders will be replaced with actual gameplay footage of the Exa Version along with highlighting exclusive features not available elsewhere.

With the arcade versions coming up, expect a greater deal of polish applied to the games, which some mobile conversions like My Slam and Jam can really benefit from the process.
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I hope the system sells well and makes OPs plenty of money, but those games Edit: linked above :lol: I can’t wait to see the price of them.
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It'll be interesting to see if the A&B soft kit will be priced the same as the Steam remakes.
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I'm presuming the a&b is the premium launch title and the steamers :shifty: will have varying entry points . A $1000+ bucks for some of them seems a tab much. Since they are being inspired by the Mvs in a way they need to factor that and not what Cave boards were sold for !
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geotrig wrote:
January 29th, 2019, 3:13 pm
I'm presuming the a&b is the premium launch title and the steamers :shifty: will have varying entry points . A $1000+ bucks for some of them seems a tab much. Since they are being inspired by the Mvs in a way they need to factor that and not what Cave boards were sold for !
Yeah $1800 for mainboard + game kit sounds about right, but $1000-$1500 for a **** poor remake of an already **** mobile game is going to have sales in single digits :problem:
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I guess those games make sense in some markets. Especially catering to casual players in bowling alleys or shopping centres.
These don't have to be aimed at the traditional arcade players and collectors to gain footing in the market. Most operators never gave to **** if a game is good or bad they only want ROI.
If quality titles are available later on, i'll be fine.
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Not to state the obvious, but this is a commercial system for operators to put on location and earn, not something aimed at home collectors. The math is different in that case.

I've got functioning eyes, I see the issues everyone else is pointing out too, some of these titles feel low rent. I'm sure they're taking anything they can get to build the catalog, it's a chicken and egg problem to launch a new system. If they can just get some units out there and even a few of these games are 'sticky' then they have a platform to build on and interest will rise. It takes time for original titles to be built, and you need a userbase to sell them to.

But if I'm an op and I pay $1000 for a $20 Steam game it's because I'm guessing I can get more than 1000 $1 coin drop plays on it. Plenty of these games are ones I'd pass up on Steam, I've got a wishlist a mile long like most people, but I'd definitely be curious enough to try if I was lucky enough to have an arcade full of Exa machines available.
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MrJBRPG wrote:
January 29th, 2019, 2:23 pm
hope for a greater deal of polish applied to the games
FTFY
markedkiller78 wrote:
January 29th, 2019, 2:33 pm
I hope the system sells well and makes OPs plenty of money
Same. There are no arcades anywhere nearby so the system's never going to make any money from me but I wish it well. Maybe if an AES style "home" version of the system gets produced that played the arcade carts AND had a warranty system here in the west...
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A home version of a port of a steam game :awe:

At least this is available to western markets, unlike nesica.
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Aurich wrote:
January 29th, 2019, 4:02 pm
Not to state the obvious, but this is a commercial system for operators to put on location and earn, not something aimed at home collectors. The math is different in that case.

I've got functioning eyes, I see the issues everyone else is pointing out too, some of these titles feel low rent. I'm sure they're taking anything they can get to build the catalog, it's a chicken and egg problem to launch a new system. If they can just get some units out there and even a few of these games are 'sticky' then they have a platform to build on and interest will rise. It takes time for original titles to be built, and you need a userbase to sell them to.

But if I'm an op and I pay $1000 for a $20 Steam game it's because I'm guessing I can get more than 1000 $1 coin drop plays on it. Plenty of these games are ones I'd pass up on Steam, I've got a wishlist a mile long like most people, but I'd definitely be curious enough to try if I was lucky enough to have an arcade full of Exa machines available.
You are correct to point out the logic behind the prices because arcade machines are an investment item for commercial distribution and public display. Not to mention, other components, like monitor; speakers; controllers; coin slot / card reader; banners; instructions; and accessories, to build that machine and show off the unit in full glory.


As for some multiplayer titles, some of them will be quite attractive to casual crowds such as My Slam & Jam, Cosmic Digger, Nippon Marathon Hyper Turbo Running, and Lightning Knights (Iron Crypticle EXA version). A diverse lineup for launch means there is something for every place and audience possible.


Anyways, it seems that GDC is off the table this year because EXA Arcadia is getting its first set of titles ready before summer as initial launch time in Japan. I only mentioned GDC because there is plenty of untapped potential on how EXA Arcadia can be utilized on other setup types such as cocktail and multi-link to bring in new forms of experiences not found on other personal devices and consoles.

Anyways, let us look forward to the first launch party worldwide and potential future conferences that EXA Arcadia plans to attend.
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PDF brochure for Japan:

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This is for the operator market and not consumers, period.

If you want to buy it, there is no limitation as an individual to buy it but don’t expect it to be consumer level pricing.

No game on the platform is 100% complete, all footage is early.

For context, here are recent prices for arcade games.
Gundam Extreme VS 2 5,500,000 JPY + 9% rev share
Tekken 7 Round 2 Upgrade Kit 800,000 JPY + 36% rev share
Street Fighter V Upgrade Kit 600,000 JPY + 35% rev share

Some of our location test income numbers over 1 week:
Aka & Blue 100,000 JPY
The Kung Fu vs Karate Champ 60,000 JPY (#1 performing fighter in the whole arcade, outperforming Fighting EX Layer 10x)
On average, every game we put on test makes over 35,000 a week meaning an operator can recoup their investment in a month. That simply doesn’t happen with another platform or game.
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Shou wrote:
January 31st, 2019, 4:35 am
Some of our location test income numbers over 1 week:
Aka & Blue 100,000 JPY
The Kung Fu vs Karate Champ 60,000 JPY (#1 performing fighter in the whole arcade, outperforming Fighting EX Layer 10x)
On average, every game we put on test makes over 35,000 a week meaning an operator can recoup their investment in a month. That simply doesn’t happen with another platform or game.
This sounds really promising, cant wait to see what the other developers are working on.
Does the Exa hardware have mounting tabs to be able to mount it on a wooden board? (Like the Type X2.)
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exA-Arcadia just tweeted : testing on a CRT cab today in Vert mode 8-)
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garrz32 wrote:
January 31st, 2019, 8:46 am
exA-Arcadia just tweeted : testing on a CRT cab today in Vert mode 8-)
:awe: :thumbup:
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Cool.
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That is promising. Since I don't have a HD-cab no more.
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Shou wrote:
January 31st, 2019, 4:35 am
This is for the operator market and not consumers, period.

If you want to buy it, there is no limitation as an individual to buy it but don’t expect it to be consumer level pricing.

No game on the platform is 100% complete, all footage is early.

For context, here are recent prices for arcade games.
Gundam Extreme VS 2 5,500,000 JPY + 9% rev share
Tekken 7 Round 2 Upgrade Kit 800,000 JPY + 36% rev share
Street Fighter V Upgrade Kit 600,000 JPY + 35% rev share

Some of our location test income numbers over 1 week:
Aka & Blue 100,000 JPY
The Kung Fu vs Karate Champ 60,000 JPY (#1 performing fighter in the whole arcade, outperforming Fighting EX Layer 10x)
On average, every game we put on test makes over 35,000 a week meaning an operator can recoup their investment in a month. That simply doesn’t happen with another platform or game.
That's encouraging.
I hope the platform thrives and catches the eye of even more developers.
Those revenue share percentages are inane.

It's going to be interesting to see the change in the arcade landscape.
Best of luck.
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Really digging the different HUD in 4:3.
Well done Tanoshimasu.
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monouchi wrote:
January 31st, 2019, 10:01 am
Really digging the different HUD in 4:3.
Well done Tanoshimasu.
Yeah it looks way better in 4:3. :awe:
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