Unknown japanese Capcom CPS1 pcb

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Unknown japanese Capcom CPS1 pcb

Post by sylphia » March 27th, 2016, 6:08 pm

Hi,
I've just received a strange Capcom CPS1 pcb.
A- and C-boards look genuine, although the latter is battery-free.
B-board seems like a boot, with mask roms labeled "XMQQ (2002-10-24)".

The A-board it came with is dead, but swapping it with a known working one resulted in the following:
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with "Pokonyan 940322 Japan" displayed at boot.

It is playable, with sound, and seems to contain only 2 "levels" according to the test mode. It seems however to require a special panel, as A and B buttons are referred to as "rolling" and "flower", respectively, in the test mode.

Nothing very exciting, but I am just wondering if anyone has ever heard of it ?
Is it some kind of hack ?
Or maybe a promotional item distributed in Japan to promote the Pokonyan anime ?
"2002-10-24" is also odd, given the lifetime of the CPS1 hardware.
Although the B-board looks very suspicious, I don't see why someone would produce something with this game on the CPS1 hardware :wtf:

Any help highly appreciated,
Thanks !

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Re: Unknown japanese Capcom CPS1 pcb

Post by muddymusic » March 27th, 2016, 7:52 pm

My best guess....I'm gonna say that's the undumped game 'Pokonyan Balloon', and that B-Board is genuine, just a unique alternate version like with Pang 3.
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Re: Unknown japanese Capcom CPS1 pcb

Post by manimani » March 27th, 2016, 8:17 pm

Nothing will bring returned spot of an electron gun which varies according to luminous intensity, and sweep screen creating perfect scanlines. (C) Epsylon

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Re: Unknown japanese Capcom CPS1 pcb

Post by sylphia » March 27th, 2016, 8:50 pm

That's indeed this one !
Thanks !

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Re: Unknown japanese Capcom CPS1 pcb

Post by sainrub » March 27th, 2016, 9:33 pm

That's interesting, first i've seen of it.

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Re: Unknown japanese Capcom CPS1 pcb

Post by rancor » March 28th, 2016, 1:30 am

Poko Nyan is a great Super Famicom game. It's aimed at children, and my 6 year old loves it:

https://youtu.be/uHOrbHuvMxs

Is it the same?

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Re: Unknown japanese Capcom CPS1 pcb

Post by sylphia » March 28th, 2016, 10:33 am

It is the same character, spinning and throwing flowers to incoming balloons.
Not a platformer game however like in the youtube video.

I am still curious about the "2002-10-24" date stamped on the chips, as: (i) 1993 and 1994 are shown on the title screen; (ii) the last game released on the CPS1 hardware was in 1995.

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Re: Unknown japanese Capcom CPS1 pcb

Post by Asure » March 28th, 2016, 12:11 pm

Very nice!

Do you have the means to dump this pcb?

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Re: Unknown japanese Capcom CPS1 pcb

Post by sylphia » March 28th, 2016, 1:26 pm

I have a Wellon VP-280 programmer. If someone is willing to help me to know which chips should be dumped, I can try to do it.
However, as already mentioned, the game is very basic, I am not sure it could be interesting to anyone...

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Post by muddymusic » March 28th, 2016, 1:33 pm

Oh please do get it dumped! You'll need to get all the chips off the B-Board. If you have the facility the GAL chips too.
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Re: Unknown japanese Capcom CPS1 pcb

Post by Asure » March 28th, 2016, 2:32 pm

sylphia wrote:I have a Wellon VP-280 programmer. If someone is willing to help me to know which chips should be dumped, I can try to do it.
However, as already mentioned, the game is very basic, I am not sure it could be interesting to anyone...
Looking at the pcb, there are part numbers silkscreened, and i would not be surprised if under the chips, there are part numbers as well.
It would be likely all chips with stickers are '27C301' aka 27C1000 which your Wellon can read. But you should see that, when you take the chips out of socket.

Use a flat head screwdriver to gently lift the chips out of socket, with no damage :)
Please name the files as the socket name/labels (example XMQQ-5A.bin, XMQQ-5B.bin and so on, you can see from the stickers.)

The smaller bottom-left chip is likely "27C512". The two unlabelled chips i cannot read, the pictures are not high res enough.
A high-res picture of the complete B-Board with the C board removed would be very welcome.

If you provide a dump, it should be relatively 'easy' to get a driver going in MAME which can run the game.

The game is 'valuable' in a sense that it is rare and should be preserved. I don't think it is worth to bootleg this, it uses a unique B board and specialized controls (spinner + 2 buttons).
(Falls into the category of that Sonic The Hedgehog Popcorn machine thingy on Sega C2 hardware.)

If you have any issues or questions dumping this, just shoot me a MP. Don't attempt to read the chips as 27C010.. they are diferent (27C1000). I hope the Wellon can read them :)

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Re: Unknown japanese Capcom CPS1 pcb

Post by sylphia » March 28th, 2016, 4:07 pm

ok, no problem in dumping it when I have some free time. I am happy if it makes its way to MAME once done.

I will see if I can dump everything on the B-board. Otherwise, I will get in touch. :D

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Re: Unknown japanese Capcom CPS1 pcb

Post by Asure » April 7th, 2016, 8:10 pm

Any luck dumping this so far?
I'm not begging for your roms :awe:
If you have it dumped, secured and preserved that's all i want to know :)

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Re: Unknown japanese Capcom CPS1 pcb

Post by ifog » April 7th, 2016, 9:05 pm

Asure wrote:
sylphia wrote: If you have any issues or questions dumping this, just shoot me a MP. Don't attempt to read the chips as 27C010.. they are diferent (27C1000). I hope the Wellon can read them :)
VP290 can't but the good old VP280 can read them.

http://www.weilei.com/VP-280list.htm

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Re: Unknown japanese Capcom CPS1 pcb

Post by sylphia » April 10th, 2016, 9:37 am

Asure wrote:Any luck dumping this so far?
I'm not begging for your roms :awe:
If you have it dumped, secured and preserved that's all i want to know :)
not yet unfortunately. I am waiting for my new programmer to arrive to see if I can completely skip my Windows machine :problem:

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Re: Unknown japanese Capcom CPS1 pcb

Post by sylphia » April 16th, 2016, 1:53 pm

ok, I have dumped all the B board ROMs. There were also two GALs, which I also dumped. I don't know if there are needed and/or protected.

I checked the MAME website for submission of new ROMs, but couldn't find anything easy to do :(
I can also post the files somewhere if anyone is interested in them.

Code: Select all

   3,0K  XMQQ-A1.jed
   128K  XMQQ-9H.bin
   128K  XMQQ-9F.bin
   128K  XMQQ-9B.bin
   128K  XMQQ-9A.bin
   128K  XMQQ-8H.bin
   128K  XMQQ-8F.bin
   128K  XMQQ-7E.bin
   128K  XMQQ-7C.bin
   128K  XMQQ-5E.bin
   128K  XMQQ-5C.bin
   128K  XMQQ-5B.bin
   128K  XMQQ-5A.bin
   128K  XMQQ-4B.bin
   128K  XMQQ-4A.bin
   128K  XMQQ-13H.bin
   128K  XMQQ-13F.bin
   128K  XMQQ-13C.bin
    64K  XMQQ-13B.bin
   128K  XMQQ-12H.bin
   128K  XMQQ-12F.bin
   3,0K  XMQQ-12E.jed
   128K  XMQQ-12C.bin
   128K  XMQQ-10B.bin
   128K  XMQQ-10A.bin
   

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Re: Unknown japanese Capcom CPS1 pcb

Post by Dullaron » April 17th, 2016, 2:10 am

Contact MAMETeam over here at http://forums.bannister.org/ They willing to take those dump and then added onto MAME with the driver.

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Re: Unknown japanese Capcom CPS1 pcb

Post by Dullaron » April 17th, 2016, 2:32 am

Here is another way to contact. http://mamedev.org/contact.html

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Re: Unknown japanese Capcom CPS1 pcb

Post by sylphia » April 18th, 2016, 8:38 am

ok, dump is not good. The silkscreen was wrong: most chips are not 27C301, but AT27C010.
I will have to dump the board again... :problem:

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Re: Unknown japanese Capcom CPS1 pcb

Post by Layer » April 18th, 2016, 9:10 am

Nice find.

Btw, the B-board looks like a boot, a few Capcom games use the same original board 89625B-1 (Japanese region) such as Magic Sword, FFight, Nemo...

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