Mame in cab thread. Frontends, gamelists, configuration etc.

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Re: Mame in cab thread. Frontends, gamelists, configuration

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GroovyArcade is fine but it has unavoidable input lag at the moment. Windows + CRT_Emudriver is currently the best method for running GroovyMAME.
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Attract-Mode 1.3.2 released....screenssaver improvements are making it look even better and a mute button, gf is much relieved as the constant bleeps and buzz's were causing some friction over dinner!! :lol: :awe:
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Should I buy a g3258k and OC or go for a 4670k?

The latter is £100 more. If I'll ever see a benefit, I'm happy spending the extra, it would also give me on board WiFi, which would be handy.

I should add, this is only for emulation
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Shrug. Too many variables. Would it overclock to the required speed on a cheap motherboard and non-fancy PSU, or do you need the extra (including cooling) to do so? It benchmarks about 1% slower than the i5 (single thread, where it counts) when they're both at stock.

Brief reading suggests that overclocking it would be easy on a budget though: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pen ... ,3888.html"

But then, a cab isn't exactly the most ventilated place to go - especially a CRT cab...

Assuming you'd be overclocking both though, right?
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Solid Gold rated PSU. Closed loop CPU cooler. The G3258k can be ocerclocked on an H81 motherboard now.

I have ram, W7, DVD and ssd. I've picked out a case and PSU. It down to CPU / mobo now.

4670k + mobo £200
G3258k + mobo £100
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I'd go with the Pentium over the 4670k.

If going with the latter, may as well go for the 4690k instead and push the boat out a bit more for a substantial performance increase. There doesn't seem to be a decent amount between the G and the 4670k when clocked the same, certainly not until the threads climb.
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Thanks Cools. I'll get the Pentium bought this afternoon.
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Had it been available at the time I'd have likely have gone with it myself. Current pricing puts it £110 cheaper than mine (which cost me £133 at the time, it's gone up). That's not a small step considering the performance it gives.

All the benchmarks I can find seem to say you need to get to about 4.5-4.6ghz to match the 4690.

Although knowing me, since I've done the "emulation ok/no" trial I'd likely just go with the 4690k nowadays just to get the "am I getting the best I can possibly get at this moment in time?" out of the way.
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Is the pursuit for CPU power pretty much just for the Cave games?

I underclock my 7 year old CPU for mame (minus cave).
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I regularly consider upgrading to an i7, then remind myself its total overkill.

If Mame used a decent (high end) GPU I would have no qualms buying an i5, but £100 ain't to be sniffed at.

I still use an atom / ion 1 for 1080p24 playback. I've yet to find a reason to upgrade other than boredom.
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The PlayStation based stuff needs a lot too, especially now that the sound is getting done on some of it.

Once mark has verified some stuff I might upgrade my old P4 based one
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I can't link to the basket, but I bought the ASrock H81-M itx motherboard. All reports say it can OC the pentium.
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cools wrote:The PlayStation based stuff needs a lot too, especially now that the sound is getting done on some of it.

Once mark has verified some stuff I might upgrade my old P4 based one
Playstation based, ST-V and cave stuff are the only reason to consider anything above an i5.
I can confirm that my i7 2600k is the only thing that I have that runs those thing's near 100%

Everything else suffers from slight stutters...99% of people never play that shiz or care anyways so it all works out in the end!! :)
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I bet cotton boomerang is a mess during the intro ;)
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How many cores / threads does 64bit Mame use now? Does it make use of hypethreading too?
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Difficult question to answer. MAME's "multithreading" option doesn't do what it sounds like it does. Depending on what you're emulating and the code used, you'll see benefit from multicore processors regardless of whether it's enabled or not.

https://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index. ... c=137090.0"

Single thread performance is still king.

http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-Intel-Pe ... erformance"
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cools wrote:I bet cotton boomerang is a mess during the intro ;)
Indeed!! ;) and radiant silvergun luls you into a false sense of security through the intro and weapon explanation until the actual game starts....then....oh dear...."slowdown city"!! :lol:
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Hmm, I only tried it briefly but I'm sure Silvergun was completely fine here.
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cools wrote:Hmm, I only tried it briefly but I'm sure Silvergun was completely fine here.
i5-3570 with my gm setup...it sucks balls!! :lol:

Interestingly it also seems to swap resolutions from the title screen to the start game menu... :think:
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Yup, same as CB. I force CB to run at just the ingame resolution - still stutters in the menu but doesn't switch res all over the place. Do the same for Driller etc.
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