My Swing project

[zumbito]

So a couple of days ago I receives a Sega Swing. I really wanted to have a 4p cab, and I finally have one. The bad side is it has several flaws.



The condition of the fiberglass is not as good as I would have wanted it to be, need to decide if paint it, sand, polish or wax it, not really sure how to go about this:




The sides is pretty beaten up and plenty of holes, if I ever go trough this, I thing I will powder coat, but not sure if I can cover the holes with putty if I plan to powder coat it.






The panel holes were all covered in putty and when trying to drill the holes it just came off.








Also, the paint job is not that smooth, the paint has a rough touch to it, put given the condition of the case not sure if I should redo it.



Lot of work and don´t know where to start from. I would like to polish, cause seems the most rewarding thing, lets see.

[zumbito]

Here some pics of the fiberglass pre and post magic eraser. Very happy with it. Any suggestions about how to polish or wax it to get the sine back?

[zipper]

That's worked really well! People say buffing with Novus plastic polish (Novus '1'?) is very good for getting the shine back. Might be worth a go.

[zumbito]

Yup, I might try that. Hard to find in Spain though.

[copados33]

This cab doesn't look that bad, a good cleaning+servicing should be enough.

[zumbito]

This cab doesn't look that bad, a good cleaning+servicing should be enough.

Thanks but rusted parts and pealed CP, CP case broken, plenty of putty and poorly painted and chasis plenty of holes, missing marquee. It has a bit of everything, wouldn't say it is in good condition.
for the time being I only plan to wax or polish to bring some shine t that plastic. Currently have no time to disassemble and paint.

[zumbito]

First big improvement. Got the doors painted and back in the frame. The color is a bit off, but going to paint the entire frame down the road so no big issue:







Against a original NNC paint:
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Next step:
Procure 2 Seimitsu joysticks with the right mounting plate, or make a new CP, still undecided.
Cut a repro marquee in metacrylate, without the plastic, still need to find a source for the right measures...

[copados33]

Next step:
Procure 2 Seimitsu joysticks with the right mounting plate

Those are called Sega "NA" mounting plates, they are bit higher than the ones made by Seimitsu itself, and they are also discontinued, so I wish you good luck, hope you can find them.

Seimitsu on the left, Sega on the right:

[zumbito]

Next step:
Procure 2 Seimitsu joysticks with the right mounting plate

Those are called Sega "NA" mounting plates, they are bit higher than the ones made by Seimitsu itself, and they are also discontinued, so I wish you good luck, hope you can find them.

Seimitsu on the left, Sega on the right:

Damn, I thought they where just normal Seimitsus. I should have insisted more to the guy who sold it to me...

[copados33]

Well, you can always install a pair of Sanwa JLF's with "P-1S" mounting plates, its a lower quality stick that will not last as long as the LS-32, in my opinion JLF's are ok by the daily "home" use, but I understand you for choosing Seimitsu over Sanwa if you are going to put the cab on location..

[emphatic]

Well, you can always install a pair of Sanwa JLF's with "P-1S" mounting plates, its a lower quality stick that will not last as long as the LS-32, in my opinion JLF's are ok by the daily "home" use, but I understand you for choosing Seimitsu over Sanwa if you are going to put the cab on location..

SANWA lower quality than Seimitsu? lol Get a JLF and get Kowal actuators for it, and they're much better than any Seimitsu stick. The build quality is way better on SANWA's joysticks, the buttons on the other hand...

[copados33]

How many Sanwa JLW/JLF have you tried "on location"?? Sanwa sticks and OBSF buttons will last less than a week (Sanwa RG's otoh...) on an arcade center in my town... but I do have seen Seimitsu sticks on some Sega Megalos and Virtua Striker machines with 20+ years that are still going strong.

I'm not talking about the stick "quality" but the "durability" of their parts, seriously... LS-32 "weak" components are cleverly mounted over a metal "instalation board" that adds a lot to the durability of their design while Sanwas are all plastic and acrylic, I have even seen JLF's shafts bent (solid, not the hollow ones) on a Tekken 5 cabinet , while LS-32's bearing is the only Achilles heel I can think of;

I'm not gonna lie, I do preffer JLF's for playing games at my home, but if I was an arcade operator all my machines would be equipped with Seimitsu parts (maybe Sanwa RG buttons) , that of course wouldn't represent a problem for a japanese arcade op because replacement parts there are plenty and cheap, plus they must have some kind of exclusivity contract with Sanwa, because of this. japanese arcade centers are the only places where you can see Sanwa joysticks on location that are in good working order, for the rest of the world? forget it.

[mufunyo]

I have bought a few arcade panels from Japan with wear and tear on them that clearly indicated they hadn't been replaced in at least 10 years, and the sticks are fine (after some cleaning). In fact, JLF springs suffer from bounce-back when new which requires them to be "broken in". For that reason I will always prefer second-hand JLFs that have been in a game centre over brand new stock. As far as I know the rule for what brand of stick to get has nothing to do with wear or durability, but simply with preference: fighting and puzzle game players prefer Sanwa, shmup players prefer Seimitsu.

[emphatic]

Yeah, I was referring to brand new parts. Never had the bounce back on a JLF, but maybe it's up to play style. The Seimitsu's have this extremely annoying wiggle room in the dead zone (you can move it a couple of mms before the spring stops it) but the JLF stays put. I don't have cabinets on location either, maybe you're right.

[nem]

The JLF is an amazing stick, it's unbelievable how much abuse it can stand. The LS-32 is almost as good. However, everything else I've seen from Seimitsu is poor quality. For home use they might be fine and have a nice feel, but they won't last in an arcade environment.

[zumbito]

I finally got the time to unwrap the marquee and big disappointment. One corner is broken, and there is no way to fix it to the marquee frame:



See bottom right corner



No way to screw it as there is no plastic left in the hole...


I guess, I can just use it as a template and try to reproduce it as good as possible.

[zipper]

Unlucky it's cracked
Good that you have the white hood though!
I had to get mine reproduced too. Unfortunately the local plastic company that cut me a copy, they have gone out of business and never shared the drawing with me.
I do have a few marquee window stickers though:

Message me your address and I'll post you a couple

[zumbito]

[zipper]

it's no problem. There are slight issues with the sticker though - the blue is too dark (aero blue, not Swing blue I think), and I printed the hole guides by mistake too - that's not really a problem as the screw holes will take almost all of the little guide images, and the screw heads will cover the rest. Also, the size is 100% - I should probably have made it 105% to make it easier to apply. You also have to cut them out - which is a bit tricky.
Anyway - I still think they look great for a repro. You can see how it looks when applied in my resto thread. I'll post you a couple for cost of postage.

[zumbito]

Awesome. Any ideas how to replace the piece that holds the top edge of the marquee to the white frame?