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Re: Boot or Original : Post original/bootleg PCB photos here.

Postby system11 » April 10th, 2016, 11:03 pm

There are loads of bootlegs of Moon Patrol, none of them have the correct amp heatsink.

Most of the originals are green by the way, the blue ones are rare - seems like it sold so well in the US that Williams actually had some manufactured, the green ones are all from the factory Irem used.
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Re: Boot or Original : Post original/bootleg PCB photos here.

Postby Tsar » April 11th, 2016, 4:14 pm

1943
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Postby system11 » April 11th, 2016, 7:10 pm

Bootleg.
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Postby Tsar » April 12th, 2016, 9:14 pm

system11 wrote:Bootleg.


dumped rom#4

Hamster's Online Rom says:

1943b 1943: Battle of Midway (bootleg, hack of Japan set) 4.5h gfx1 0 32768

its the finest bootleg I have seen..in pcb quality etc...

thanks.
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Postby system11 » April 13th, 2016, 11:58 am

1943 bootlegs are easy to spot as the MCU is missing, that's the empty 40 pin socket, sometimes the socket isn't even there just the space on the PCB.
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Postby GIF » April 27th, 2016, 7:34 pm

Hey,
I just got a MVS of Strikers 1945 Plus and... It's not 100% original but seems more like a repaired game, not a boot.
The guy who sold it is selling on Yahoo Auction, seems to be arcade games taken from game centrers as he's got a big amount of copies of the same games.
He's a serious guy, I got many games from him, some were 100% original, others repaired.

Let me know, as I couldn't get information for this Strikers 1945 Plus.

Here are the pictures

PCB front :
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PCB back :
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detail 0 : PCB is melted, turned to brown on the components around the chip
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detail 1 :
soldering is nice, but brown at all the points (comparing to the 1st top line)
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detail 2 :
seems to be an original chip but brown on the soldering points, as if it was replaced
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here are 2 links of pictures full size of the entire PCB, front and back :
http://superloin.free.fr/forums/MVS_strikers_1945_plus/FRONT_big.JPG
http://superloin.free.fr/forums/MVS_strikers_1945_plus/BACK_big.JPG

Let Me Know :)
Thank you
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Postby system11 » April 27th, 2016, 8:00 pm

Original, be interesting to dump that chip with the blue sticker though in case it's a revision/region thing.
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Postby GIF » April 27th, 2016, 9:24 pm

How would I know if it's a regional/revision thing ?

And about the other chip (number 2), original ? Because brownish on the soldering areas like if it has been replaced.
Same around the big chip (number 0).
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Re: Boot or Original : Post original/bootleg PCB photos here.

Postby leonardoliveira » April 28th, 2016, 4:41 pm

It's either a *REPAIR* or it was dismantled to be dumped. Paranoid are we? :lol:

The NG ID code for that game is 254, right? The CHR ROMs are encrypted (It has a CHAFIO board with NEO-CMC) and they are all MASK ROMS. I dunno what you're worred about.

http://www.neo-geo.com/snk/master_list-ngh.htm
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Postby GIF » April 28th, 2016, 7:19 pm

Hi, OK leonard(o?).
So I suppose no need to try gettig another one :)

"dismantled to be dumped" : what do you mean ?

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Postby leonardoliveira » April 29th, 2016, 6:11 am

GIF wrote:Hi, OK leonard(o?).
"dismantled to be dumped" : what do you mean ?

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Leonard, without "o".

I mean someone could have removed the chip to attempt read it. But since the NEO-CMC chip also got reworked (flux residue) the repair hypothesis is the most likely one.
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Re: Boot or Original : Post original/bootleg PCB photos here.

Postby AteThePrincess » May 8th, 2016, 6:54 am

Picked up an AWSD today with an Atomiswave setup in it. I intend on selling along the AW (AW2Naomi FTW), but would like to see if anyone can verify that my Hokuto no Ken is legitimate. It's one of the few carts I've never owned before, so I'm not sure.

There's no holo-label, but it's not the known serial for bootlegs either. The PCB has factory stickers on it and the soldering job looks machine-done.

The GG:Isuka I've got is real though for sure.

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Postby mastercello » May 8th, 2016, 8:51 am

Look like a bootleg to me...sticker has no rounded Corner, Chips are missing silkprint
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Postby nem » May 8th, 2016, 2:31 pm

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Postby AteThePrincess » May 8th, 2016, 3:36 pm

Thanks to the mod who moved my thread here (didn't realize this was a thread), and thank you both for your info :).
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Postby Asayuki » May 8th, 2016, 9:34 pm

Rather than "no silkprint", the ICs look sanded to me which is almost never a good sign.
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Postby zak » July 23rd, 2016, 6:58 pm

Is this an original Denjin Makai 2 JPN PCB?

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Postby system11 » July 24th, 2016, 1:13 am

Korean made.

Despite the Korean sticker, this one here is Japan assembled. The game region is a dip switch.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Guardians-Denji ... 2213822003

The heatsink is a dead giveaway - the proper Japan build boards use a different amplifier, you can see in the underside photo which type is under that heatsink - lots of pins instead of just 5.
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Re: Boot or Original : Post original/bootleg PCB photos here.

Postby AteThePrincess » September 20th, 2016, 6:47 pm

Undercover cops?

http://imgur.com/oG5gFV6
http://imgur.com/Gi5kcpG

Sold it and the recipient claims it's a boot. Trying to get that sorted.
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Re: Boot or Original : Post original/bootleg PCB photos here.

Postby leonardoliveira » September 20th, 2016, 8:27 pm

It's really curious that it has the original NANAO chips. :-o

I honestly don't know if it's a boot or not but the fake YM2151 ain't a very good sign. :wtf:
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