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Re: Boot or Original : Post original/bootleg PCB photos here

Postby paul79 » August 9th, 2014, 11:20 am

system11 wrote:Bootleg


Thought so I had a quick go this morning after you lose first life your start your second with all powerups, anyway of changing this dipswitch setting's?
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Re: Boot or Original : Post original/bootleg PCB photos here

Postby ninn » October 2nd, 2014, 8:14 am

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Re: Boot or Original : Post original/bootleg PCB photos here

Postby mastercello » October 2nd, 2014, 8:17 am

Bootleg B&C board in my opinion...
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Re: Boot or Original : Post original/bootleg PCB photos here

Postby ElHuron » October 20th, 2014, 10:04 am

Hi,

It's a TMNT that seems to be a bootleg, but with original Konami's custom chips :
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Never seen that before...

Boot or not boot ? That is the question. :)
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Re: Boot or Original : Post original/bootleg PCB photos here

Postby ElHuron » October 24th, 2014, 9:32 am

Is anybody know ?
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Postby geotrig » October 24th, 2014, 9:49 am

i would guess its a boot ,seeing it has no board markings etc ,not keyed totaly & different layout to on original (daughterboard)
the chips are a curiosity alright, maybe it was a licensed version for some foreign market,is there anything on the boot upscreen 's that suggest a region or if licensed ?
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Re: Boot or Original : Post original/bootleg PCB photos here

Postby ElHuron » October 24th, 2014, 5:00 pm

geotrig wrote:is there anything on the boot upscreen 's that suggest a region or if licensed ?


It looks the same as the original boot screeen :

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Postby CTN » October 26th, 2014, 11:02 am

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Re: Boot or Original : Post original/bootleg PCB photos here

Postby Asure » October 26th, 2014, 5:03 pm

MVS stuff: Both are conversions..

The TMNT is a real oddity. Some of the customs could be recycled from a lesser-valued game, but even then, the parts would still have been costly. Seeing as Moo Mesa and Sunset Riders were bootlegged as well, with simulated customs, there would have not been a real need to mass-produce stuff like that. I guess its value as-is to be around €50 or so?
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Re: Boot or Original : Post original/bootleg PCB photos here

Postby CTN » October 26th, 2014, 8:24 pm

Asure wrote:MVS stuff: Both are conversions..

The TMNT is a real oddity. Some of the customs could be recycled from a lesser-valued game, but even then, the parts would still have been costly. Seeing as Moo Mesa and Sunset Riders were bootlegged as well, with simulated customs, there would have not been a real need to mass-produce stuff like that. I guess its value as-is to be around €50 or so?


Yes, but i would call these borderline bootlegs.

The TMNT could be a Korean licensee version with all the GoldStar and Korean marked chips.
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Re: Boot or Original : Post original/bootleg PCB photos here

Postby Asure » October 26th, 2014, 9:16 pm

CTN wrote:The TMNT could be a Korean licensee version with all the GoldStar and Korean marked chips.

I thought that too, but then i noticed the YM2151 is missing the date/batch code, something which could have given away the bootleggers' identity back in the days.. ;)
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Re: Boot or Original : Post original/bootleg PCB photos here

Postby ElHuron » October 29th, 2014, 11:08 am

Asure wrote:I guess its value as-is to be around €50 or so?

Yes it exactly the price I paid. But I think seller don't know how this PCB is rare.
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Re: Boot or Original : Post original/bootleg PCB photos here

Postby system11 » October 30th, 2014, 10:06 pm

Does that TMNT have a second PCB layer, or stuff soldered to the underneath?

Strugglng to understand where the graphics ROMs have gone...
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Re: Boot or Original : Post original/bootleg PCB photos here

Postby skate » November 1st, 2014, 5:50 pm

Hi there,

I have question for you guys : I have recently acquired a Blazing Star on Neo Geo AES sold as an original, and I want confirmation that it is really one.

I have had a long discussion with the seller for the origin of the game, & tutti quanti and he looks trustworthy. I examined his pics before buying, reexamined the game on all sides when received it, compared it with my own conversion of the game. I am pretty sure that it is an original one. But because I am not very old in the AES world, I need ultimate confirmation by pros or experimented members about Neo Geo AES, particularly concerning the PCBs (I have opened it to make pics of them). I want to be in peace with my consciousness :)
Here are some pics of the PCBs I made (sorry if the quality is bad, my device is not a perfect one) :

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thanks a lot in advance for the help you can provide :)

Edit : Thanks to have moved the topic :) I didn't know where to post it.
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Re: Boot or Original : Post original/bootleg PCB photos here

Postby crunchywasp » November 1st, 2014, 7:10 pm

Looks original. You can compare it to the photos of the boards here:

http://mvs.gotwalls.com/index.php/Blazing_Star
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Re: Boot or Original : Post original/bootleg PCB photos here

Postby skate » November 1st, 2014, 7:21 pm

Thanks for your answer :)

But I precise that it is an AES version, not an MVS ;) or I did not understand the pics in the link you gave.
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Re: Boot or Original : Post original/bootleg PCB photos here

Postby crunchywasp » November 1st, 2014, 7:23 pm

Ahh, sorry I never read your post properly and assumed it was MVS :palm:

Your boards looks original to me nonetheless. I'm sure someone will be able to confirm for certain though :)
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Re: Boot or Original : Post original/bootleg PCB photos here

Postby skate » November 1st, 2014, 11:29 pm

crunchywasp wrote:Ahh, sorry I never read your post properly and assumed it was MVS :palm:

Your boards looks original to me nonetheless. I'm sure someone will be able to confirm for certain though :)


No problem ^^ thanks for your first informations :)

I'll wait for an ultimate confirmation now.
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Re: Boot or Original : Post original/bootleg PCB photos here

Postby ElHuron » November 11th, 2014, 3:23 pm

system11 wrote:Does that TMNT have a second PCB layer, or stuff soldered to the underneath?

Strugglng to understand where the graphics ROMs have gone...


Yes, there is a second layer with many ROM.
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Re: Boot or Original : Post original/bootleg PCB photos here

Postby CTN » November 15th, 2014, 6:27 pm

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I'm a bit concerned with the eeproms in B1, C1, D1, E1. Had this board had repairs done or is it a conversion.

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