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Is this board a boot? it's on ebay .
It's a super pang board.
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I now also see this board. I'm wondering if this is a original board.
It's a pang 3 board.
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The screws used to seal up this cart are wood screws. Nobody is going to waste good wood screws on a bootleg, they'd just use cheap electronic screws instead.
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Boot.
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I have Mitchell Corp stamped on my ****.
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cools wrote:Boot.
Both?
The screws used to seal up this cart are wood screws. Nobody is going to waste good wood screws on a bootleg, they'd just use cheap electronic screws instead.
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The top/eBay one is definitely a boot. It's not CPS1 for a start. Bottom one, not sure, it's CPS1 though.
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They are both legit :!:

Super Pang is not CPS platform - its pre CPS :arrow: http://www.arcadecollecting.com/dead/dead.html
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Ahh, **** - sorry - I thought we were just on about Pang 3. Forget everything I said :)
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Ah thanks:) ill keep an eye on them then.

Thx:)
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Hi guys,

anybody knows if this a bootleg or not? It's supposed to be a original IREM "In the Hunt" pcb, but I don't know. Compared to the M-92 boards I know this one somehow looks like crap:

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Looks almost like an original M92 game, but as you told already....looks very crappy and is probably a bootleg.
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Yes, first I thought it looks like too much work for a bootleg, but then there are pictures of boards in this thread where the boot pcb looks really almost identical to the original. So I have a bad feeling about this one... Thanks.
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That In the Hunt PCB is considered original, but not "IREM original".
It has been licensed from IREM to be assembled... in Korea i think it was? As you can see it do use the IREM custom chips.
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Thanks, interesting to know that Sega also did this. Some 80ies games like "Crazy Kong/Crazy Kong 2" by publisher Falcon were also official "boots".
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Wurstkopp wrote:Thanks, interesting to know that Sega also did this. Some 80ies games like "Crazy Kong/Crazy Kong 2" by publisher Falcon were also official "boots".
Licenses are not bootlegs, they are just licenses. it the board itself is different, then it's probably optimisation of the board such as changing components in order to drop the cost of manafacture (in the same way some export versions are missing intros and such to use less chips). Calling them "boots" even if you use the word "official" is misleading
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Ok, I think I get the point. Probably should have bought this pcb, it was sold on ebay for € 52,-... :crazy: :D
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Stefan_L wrote:
arcader wrote:It's a conversion. Not bootleg. It's exactly the same board(s). :P
Even if the layout is the same it's still a bootleg.
Yes - other clues:

Incorrect amp chip, just stuck in the air - hardly any original PCBs have this, most are either bolted to the PCB or to a heatsink.
Plastic coated crystal with no grounding strap around it. Again a common hint that it's a bootleg.
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Hi
i would like to know if my Metal Slug 3 MVS cart is original or a bootleg, it seems original to me, but this small daugerboard sounds suspicius.
Also, why ppl remove serial numbers from MVS carts ?

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I don't know about the daughterboard, but the main boards are original. (Number 256 chips are Metal Slug 3)

Serials are scratched because SNK didn't allow operators to sell the carts to other operators when the game was 'old' or didn't bring in enough money anymore. Because the serials were removed SNK couldn't track which operator originally bought the cart.

At least that's what I was told when I started collecting MVS anyway :awe:
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it's original, SNK was just using left over parts, I think if memory serves me the small daughterboard was akin to a neogeo pocket part or something weird like that, you could search around neo-geo.com and prolly find out more about what the daughterboard is, but it is 100% legit.
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Oh the irony :shh:
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