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List of Japanese Control Boxes / Superguns - Info & photos

Postby Paulie » March 14th, 2012, 10:07 pm

Hopefully this thread will be of use to anyone thinking of dipping their toes into this area of the hobby :)

Firstly Japanese gamers call these wondrous things コントロールボックス "Control Box" or Cボックス "C-Box" for short, but never supergun. Interestingly, originally they simply called them コントロールパネル "control panel"

Where to buy one
You will occasionally see them for sale in all of the usual places where you buy your arcade tat.
*Forums, check out the market place here and any other arcade forums that you are signed up to.
*Online auctions - ebay and Yahoo jp are your best bets.
*Japanese arcade shops - G Front, MAK, Try etc.
G Fronts control box blog/ price list http://gfront.sblo.jp/category/702869-1.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
MAK Control boxes http://www.mak-jp.com/ctrbox.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Try Control boxes http://www.try-inc.co.jp/pcb_shop/ctrlbox/ctrlbox.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What to be aware of before buying
*As with anything in this hobby ask if it works, if it has any known issues and what condition it is in.
*In Japan they were all originally sold without Looms and TV cables. The console style ones were even sold without sticks and to complicate things further most of the Sigma sticks have detachable (not fixed) leads. This was a great idea, you could use the same stick with multiple consoles as long as you bought the compatible lead. So check what's included before parting with your cash.
*If buying separately, check that the console style control box has a compatible pinout with the stick you are wanting to buy, some use NeoGeo DB15 connectors whilst others use custom pinouts.
*Euro scart leads look the same as Japanese 21 pin TV leads but be warned they are wired differently. This is particularly useful to remember if you are importing directly from Japan. Converters are available but if you don't already own one then it's probably cheaper and better just to buy a new lead, or if you have the soldering skills then you could just re-wire the Japanese spec lead or make a new one.
*Control boxes can be bulky and really heavy, especially the larger 2P ones, for example the Vega9000DX tips the scales at a hefty 7.3 KG. If buying from overseas remember to take that into account as the price of shipping could quickly sour a sweet deal.

Cables and looms
So what do you do if you are missing cables and looms.
*Why not have a go at making own, pinouts for most brands are on the AO wiki as are instruction manuals (albeit mostly in Japanese)
*I've bought leads from retro gaming cables on several occasions and have been very happy with both the product and service http://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
*Our very own FrancoB made a very nice loom for one of my Sigma's, I don't know if Fran still makes these but a friendly pm can't hurt.

Controls
*2P control boxes come with buttons and sticks already installed so as long as you have the correct looms and TV lead then they are good to go out of the box. Some even use an actual candy cab control panel, the Vega 2000 and the Vega 9000DX use a Sega Aero City control panel whilst the Super Vega 21 and the Sega Board master use any standard Sega control panel ie Astro, Blast, Naomi, NNC.
*Buttons and sticks are very easy to change out as on most control boxes, just like in candy cabs, crimps are used to connect the controls. That said for some strange reason some models went down the solder route.
*Console style control boxes, require a separate controller. Sigma make a number of outstanding sticks but they are not always that easy to find outside of Japan. If the control box has DB15 ports then you can use any Neo Geo controller or if you have the skills you could always make your own custom stick.

How much do they cost
Best to see what's sold recently and ask in the valuations thread. As always prices go both up and down so only spend what you are comfortable with.


List of Japanese Superguns


1 player arcade control panel style

Sigma Fujin
シグマ風神
Dimensions: 520mmx220mmx145mm, Weight 4.12KG
Controls: 1L6B with built in Mahjong controls, Seimitsu LS32 sticks, Seimitsu PS-14-G buttons
Original Price: Approx ?
Misc: This is quite unique, it's the only 1 player control box with built in mahjong controls
RGB Scart & S-video cables are interchangeable between Vega & Sigma control boxes
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Tekunato QC-1
Dimensions: ?
Controls: 1L3B
Original Price: Approx ¥19,800
Misc: Unusual 1 player control box
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Tekunato (model unknown)
Dimensions: ?
Controls: 1L3B
Original Price: Approx ¥?
Misc: Another unusual 1 player control box from Tekunato.
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2 player arcade control panel style

Combo AV EX+
コントロールボックス COMBO AV EX+
Dimensions: H:17.1cm W: 52.3cm D: 21cm Weight: 5.24kg
Controls: 2L12B
Original price: ¥41,800 - ¥52,900 (depending on options selected)
Misc: HDMI & VGA Output. Check it out http://ec.tops-game.jp/products/detail. ... ct_id=3037


Kic Control Box-Model 045 DX (Kyowa International)
KICコントロールボックス·モデル045 DX
Dimensions: ?
Controls: 2L6B, Sanwa sticks, Sanwa buttons
Original price: Approx ¥?
Misc: Produced by the now defunct Kyowa international, who I believe also made the Kic's-91 and the Special Version of the Combo AV.
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Kic's-91 - 2L6B
Dimensions: ?
Controls: 2L6B, ? sticks, ? buttons
Original price: Approx ¥?
Misc: ?
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Kic's-91 - 2L12B
Dimensions: ?
Controls: 2L12B, ? sticks, ? buttons
Original price: Approx ¥?
Misc:
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Pana Custom
パナカスタム
Dimensions: ?
Controls: 2L12B, Seimitsu LS32 sticks, Seimitsu PS-14-G buttons
Original price: Approx ¥?
Misc: ?
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Pana Custom Long
パナカスタムロング
Dimensions: 220mmx490mmx105mm
Controls: 2L12B, Seimitsu LS32 sticks, Seimitsu PS-14-G buttons
Original price: Approx ¥34,000
Misc: ?
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Pana Twin Long
パナツインロング
Dimensions: 221mmx490mmx96mm
Controls: 2L12B with built in Mahjong controls, Seimitsu LS32 sticks, Seimitsu PS-14-G buttons
Original price: Approx ¥38,000
Misc: ?
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Pana Twin MP-92 - Regular version
パナツインMP-92
Dimensions: 221mm460mmx107mm
Controls: 2L12B, Seimitsu LS32 sticks, Seimitsu PS-14-G buttons
Original price: Approx ¥?
Misc: ?
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Pana Twin MP-92 - Mahjong version
パナツインMP-92
Dimensions: 221mm460mmx107mm
Controls: 2L12B, with built in mahjong controls, Seimitsu LS32 sticks, Seimitsu PS-14-G buttons
Original price: Approx ¥42,000
Misc: ?
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Sega Boardmaster 1st release - Astro city CP
セガボードマスター
Dimensions: 210mmx650mmx100mm
Controls: 2L12B, ? sticks, ? buttons, but I assume to be Sanwa
Original Price: Approx ¥48,000
Misc: This is slightly different to the 2nd release, note the 2nd release has 12 switches above the control panel whilst this model has only 2
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Sega Boardmaster 2nd release - Blast city CP
セガボードマスター
Dimensions: 210mmx650mmx100mm
Controls: 2L12B, ? sticks, ? buttons but I assume them to be Sanwa
Original Price: Approx ¥51,840
Misc: http://www.tops-game.jp/part/usually/05 ... box_01.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Sigma Raijin
シグマ雷神
Dimensions: 520mmx220mmx145mm, Weight 4.32KG
Controls: 2L12B, Seimitsu LS32 sticks, Seimitsu PS-14-G buttons. later models had different buttons
Original Price: Approx ¥36,500
Misc: RGB Scart & S-video cables are interchangeable between Vega & Sigma control boxes
http://www.tops-game.jp/part/usually/05 ... box_03.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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The Special Version Of Combo AV - Short version
コンボAV
Dimensions: ?
Controls: 2L12B, Seimitsu LS32 sticks, Shinden buttons. (Controls are soldered, not crimped)
Original Price: Approx ¥25,000
Misc:This is 100% factory stock even though buttons 1,2&3 are numbered but buttons 4,5&6 are not. Also the placement of buttons 4,5&6 on the player 2 odd.
My overview here
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The Special Version Of Combo AV - Long version
コンボAV
Dimensions: 203mmx500mmx98mm
Controls:2L12B, Seimitsu LS32 sticks, Shinden buttons. (Controls are soldered, not crimped)
Original Price: Approx ¥25,000
Misc: The Special Version Of Combo AV was pictured on the Sega Saturn flyer for Dodopachi
My overview here

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Super Vega 21
スーパーベガ21
Dimensions: 297mmx672mmx148mm
Controls:2L16B, sticks and buttons appear to be Sanwa, Astro City control panel
Original Price: Approx ¥65,000
Misc: When new this was the most expensive C-Box out there. RGB Scart & S-video cables are interchangeable between Vega & Sigma control boxes
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SVG-8
Dimensions: ?
Controls:2L6B, Seimitsu LS32 sticks, Seimitsu PS-14-G buttons,
Original Price: Approx ¥29,800
Misc: ?
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Twin Rudder
ツインラダー
Dimensions: ?
Controls:2L12B with built in Mahjong controls, Seimitsu LS32 sticks, Seimitsu PS-14-G buttons,
Original Price: Approx ¥?
Misc: ?
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Vega 2000
ベガ2000
Dimensions: ?
Controls:2L12B, Seimitsu LS32 sticks, Seimitsu PS-14-G buttons, Sega Aero City control panel
Original Price: Approx ¥?
Misc: RGB Scart & S-video cables are interchangeable between Vega & Sigma control boxes


Vega 9000DX
ベガ9000 DX
Dimensions: 270mmx540mmx116mm, Weight 7.3 KG
Controls:2L12B, Seimitsu LS32 sticks, Seimitsu PS-14-G buttons, all buttons have full variable speed auto shot support, Sega Aero City control panel. (Controls are crimped)
Features +5V ADJ, RGB output, S video / AV output, Stereo / Mono switch, 12V+ LED, 5V- LED, Headphone jack, Video/ AV brightness control, Colour burst correction
Original Price: Approx ¥53,000
Misc: Loads of different style (mostly SF) overlays were supplied on these control boxes
RGB Scart & S-video cables are interchangeable between Vega & Sigma control boxes
My overview here
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Vega Jr. - Regular version
ベガジュニア
Dimensions: ?
Controls: 2L16B, Seimitsu LS32 sticks, Seimitsu PS-14-G buttons
Original Price: Approx ¥29,800
Misc: RGB Scart & S-video cables are interchangable for all Sigma's and Vega's
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Vega Jr. - Auto fire version
ベガジュニア
Dimensions: ?
Controls: 2L16B, Seimitsu LS32 sticks, Seimitsu PS-14-G buttons
Original Price: Approx ¥29,800
Misc: RGB Scart & S-video cables are interchangeable between Vega & Sigma control boxes
This is the same as the regular version of the Vega Jr but has built in factory standard full button auto fire support
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Wintechno Play2 - Regular version
Dimensions: ?
Controls: 2L12B Seimitsu LS32 sticks, Seimitsu PS-14-G buttons
Original Price: Approx ¥?
Misc: ?
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Wintechno Play2 - Mahjong version
Dimensions: ?
Controls: 2L12B with built in Mahjong controls Seimitsu LS32 sticks, Seimitsu PS-14-G buttons
Original Price: Approx ¥?
Misc: ?
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With built in monitors

Sigma with built in 19" CRT (model unknown)
シグマコントロールボックス
Dimensions: ?
Controls ?
Original Price: Approx ¥?
Misc: To me it looks like a commercial bar top arcade, note the coin mech to the right of the monitor. It was listed as a control box on yahoo jp viewtopic.php?f=18&t=24769" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; but I can find zero information on this bad boy. Weather it be a control box or bar top artcade it's as rare as hens teeth.



Console style with detachable sticks

Lotus Press BOX LAM-1
ロータスプレスBOX LAM-1
Dimensions: ?
Controller: ?
Original Price: Approx ¥?
Misc: ?
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Sigma AV999
シグマAV999
Dimensions: ?
Controller: Sigma stick S-9 Turbo
Original Price: Approx ¥?
Misc: ?


Sigma AV1000
シグマAV1000
Dimensions: ?
Controller: Possibly Sigma S-9 Turbo
Original Price: Approx ¥?
Misc: ?
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Sigma AV-2001 Video Game
シグマAV2001
Dimensions: ?
Controller: ?
Original Price: Approx ¥?
Misc: ?
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Sigma AV3000
シグマAV3000
Dimensions: ?
Controller: Σ6000TB
Original Price: Approx ¥?
Misc: Came in Black with white graphics and also is white with red graphics
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Sigma AV5000
シグマAV5000
Dimensions: 95mmx200mmx126mm
Controller: DB15 ports (MVS) - Σ8000TB
Original Price: Approx ¥26,000
Misc: Came in black with gold graphics and silver with black graphics
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Sigma AV6000
シグマAV6000
Dimensions: 95mmx200mmx106mm
Controller: DB15 ports (MVS) - Σ8000TB stick
Original Price: Approx ¥?
Misc:
My overview here viewtopic.php?f=18&t=19658" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Sigma AV7000
シグマAV7000
Dimensions: 95mmx200mmx106mm
Controller: 13 pin din ports - Σ9000TB stick. MS9 Mahjong controller
Original Price: Approx ¥28,000, JAMMA harness sold separately ¥3,240, 9000TB stick sold separately approx ¥16,200 for the stick & ¥2,200 for the connecting cord
Misc: RGB, S-Video, AV outputs. http://www.tops-game.jp/part/usually/05 ... box_02.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Sigma controllers

Sigma model ?
シグマ Model ?
Dimensions: ?
Controller connection: ?
Original Price: ?


Sigma 8000TB
シグマ8000TB
Dimensions: 320mmx221mmx103mm
Controller connection: DB15 (MVS)
Original Price: Approx ¥15,800


Sigma 9000TB
シグマ9000TB
Dimensions: ?
Controller connection: 13 pin din ports, controller connecting cord was sold separately
Original Price: Approx ¥16,200 for the stick & ¥2,200 for the connecting cord
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Sigma Mahjong panel
シグマ麻雀パネル
Dimensions: ?
Controller connection: ?
Original Price: ?
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Re: List of Japanese Superguns & Information

Postby davewellington » March 14th, 2012, 10:18 pm

We have a supergun section on the wiki that would love expansion!
http://wiki.arcadeotaku.com/w/Supergun
LMK if you need any help :D
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Re: List of Japanese Superguns & Information

Postby Stv » March 15th, 2012, 5:54 am

If you need some inside pictures i have some sg for sale. I can open them and make pictures. Let me know :)
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Re: List of Japanese Superguns & Information

Postby Paulie » March 15th, 2012, 5:39 pm

davewellington wrote:We have a supergun section on the wiki that would love expansion!
http://wiki.arcadeotaku.com/w/Supergun
LMK if you need any help :D


Cheers buddy, if I can help by making it a bit more comprehensive then I would love to.


Stv wrote:If you need some inside pictures i have some sg for sale. I can open them and make pictures. Let me know :)


That would be fantastic, I only have a AV6000 and a VEGA9000 DX so if you have any others you could photograph that would be brilliant :awe:
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Re: List of Japanese Superguns & Information

Postby Paulie » March 16th, 2012, 12:06 am

I've now done a fairly detailed overview for the Sigma AV6000 viewtopic.php?f=18&t=19658 and the Vega 9000DX viewtopic.php?f=18&t=19677
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Re: List of Japanese Superguns & Information

Postby davewellington » March 16th, 2012, 12:38 am

Paulie wrote:
davewellington wrote:We have a supergun section on the wiki that would love expansion!
http://wiki.arcadeotaku.com/w/Supergun
LMK if you need any help :D


Cheers buddy, if I can help by making it a bit more comprehensive then I would love to.


Yeah just dive in, there's not really a barrier of what's useful or not, anything could eventually help anyone eventually. We get a decent amount of hits through search engines so the data is out there and being read. All the information you've posted so far would be great on the wiki :D
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Re: List of Japanese Superguns & Information

Postby Stv » March 16th, 2012, 2:57 am

Paulie wrote:
Stv wrote:If you need some inside pictures i have some sg for sale. I can open them and make pictures. Let me know :)


That would be fantastic, I only have a AV6000 and a VEGA9000 DX so if you have any others you could photograph that would be brilliant :awe:


hi!

av5000, sigma raijin, vegaJR, pana twin. these for now. i will make pictures later :)
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Re: List of Japanese Superguns & Information

Postby Paulie » March 16th, 2012, 9:17 pm

Stv wrote:
Paulie wrote:
Stv wrote:If you need some inside pictures i have some sg for sale. I can open them and make pictures. Let me know :)


That would be fantastic, I only have a AV6000 and a VEGA9000 DX so if you have any others you could photograph that would be brilliant :awe:


hi!

av5000, sigma raijin, vegaJR, pana twin. these for now. i will make pictures later :)


Great stuff mate :thumbup:

I've added some pics in the 1st post of:
Kic Control Box-Model 045 DX
Kic's 91 (I only have a tiny rubbish picture of this SG)
Pana Custom
Pana Custom Long
Pana Twin Long - with built in 1P Mahjong controller
Pana Twin MP-92 - regular version NOT Mahjong version
Pana Twin MP-92 - Mahjong version with factory standard built in 1P Mahjong controller
Sega Boardmaster - Blast city CP version
Sigma Fujin 1 player 6 button with Mahjong panel
Sigma Raijin
The Special Version Of Combo AV
Vega 9000DX
Vega Jr. - regular version
Vega Jr. - auto fire version
Sigma AV1000 (I only have a small picture of this)
Sigma AV5000
Sigma AV6000
Sigma 8000TB stick
Sigma AV7000
Sigma 9000TB stick
Sigma MS9 Mahjong controller



I'll have a look on my computer to see if I have saved images of these ones:
Sega Boardmaster - Astro city CP version
Twin Rudder
Wintechno Play2
Sigma S-9 Turbo stick

and any better pictures of
Kic's 91
Sigma AV3000
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Re: List of Japanese Superguns + Info + Lots of photographs

Postby sparkychan » March 17th, 2012, 4:18 pm

Wish I had taken better photos when this was in my possession. It is a Sigma AV999 console style supergun.

Quick specs:

  • Uses 13-pin din for controller ports
  • Composite and RGB Video output only
  • Mono/Stereo Switch
  • Controls are 1L3B with auto-fire, A-B switch, Lock, and Slow functions
  • Volume, CBC, and Brightness* nobs to control these levels (*I may be wrong on the brightness.)

I have a Sigma AV3000 that I can take photographs of and add some details on. Here is a website with pinout information on the Sigma line of superguns:

http://www37.atwiki.jp/pm-service/pages/14.html

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Re: List of Japanese Superguns + Info + Lots of photographs

Postby Paulie » March 19th, 2012, 11:44 pm

Excellent stuff, I did'nt have the AV999 on the list :thumbup:

Yep if you can take some pictures of the AV3000 that would be great mate :awe:
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Re: List of Japanese Superguns + Info + Lots of photographs

Postby Paulie » March 21st, 2012, 9:01 pm

(see 1st post)

Added pics of
Kic's-91 3 button per payer version (3 buttons per player)
Twin Rudder (6 buttons per player with built in 1P Mahjong controller)
Sigma AV-2001 Video Game(Sigma stick?)
Sigma AV5000 (black & gold)

and a better pics of
Kic's-91 6 button per player version (6 buttons per player)
Pana Custom (6 buttons per player)
Sigma Raijin (6 buttons per player) 1st release
Sigma AV3000

I'm also starting to add info to the wiki.
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Re: List of Japanese Superguns + Info + Lots of photographs

Postby Paulie » April 7th, 2012, 5:25 pm

Nice one Ralph :clap: :thumbup:
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Re: List of Japanese Superguns + Info + Lots of photographs

Postby Paulie » May 4th, 2012, 9:36 pm

Added another variant - Long version of Special version of combo av :mrgreen:
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Re: List of Japanese Superguns + Info + Lots of photographs

Postby instant_classic » May 4th, 2012, 10:21 pm

Nice work with all this paulie ;)
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Re: List of Japanese Superguns + Info + Lots of photographs

Postby Paulie » June 3rd, 2012, 10:13 am

Added Lotus Press BOX LAM-1

A big thanks to dave for the heads up :thumbup: I had never heard of this one before dave pointed it out to me, looks pretty interesting too but there does'nt seem to be anything or at least I haven't found any info about it on the web.

If anyone is interested this sold for 19,500 Yen over on Yahoo JP

More pics and info will be added to the wiki :awe: ATM this is pretty thin on the ground as all I have is what was in the auction listing
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Re: List of Japanese Superguns + Info + Lots of photographs

Postby Paulie » August 1st, 2012, 8:45 pm

Added SVG-8 to the list
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Currently for sale on Yahoo.jp SVG 8 Supergun: http://page13.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r92626983 (thanks to cools for spotting this and posting the link in the yahoo japan thread)
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Re: List of Japanese Superguns + Info + Lots of photographs

Postby mendo » August 1st, 2012, 9:06 pm

Wow, never seen one of those, pretty cramped looking tbh, cool none-the-less
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Re: List of Japanese Superguns + Info + Lots of photographs

Postby Kretinou » May 1st, 2013, 8:10 pm

Just about the Arcade Sailor Supergun, here's an nice picture of it :
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Re: List of Japanese Superguns + Info + Lots of photographs

Postby wonderbanana » May 1st, 2013, 8:42 pm

Out of curio, with these big all in one Superguns - I assume they have a 5v adjustment?
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